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The Common Room / Soho Brick Wall 1870s/80s, poss Irish
« on: Tuesday 16 March 21 11:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi wonderful rootschatters!

I have a Charles Pawle b.1819 who married a Caroline Jones in Bristol in 1839, had around 8 children with her, before he appears in London in the 1851 census staying with his older brother Anthony in Shoreditch, and then is living in Covent Garden in 1861 with some but not all of his later-born children & his wife Caroline not to be seen.

Then in the 1871 census he is at Little Windmill Street, St John The Baptist, Soho, listed as a widow,  working as a "Ladies Boot Maker", living with his daughter Ellen 14 who is probably Caroline's daughter. However also with him are Henry, 14months old and a "visitor" whose name I think is Ann Moore, of Middlesex, London.

By 1881 he is still at Little Windmill Street living with a "Susannah Pawle", born in Kerry, Ireland, & has not only son Henry, but also daughters Ada, Agnes & Annie, b.1872. This latter Annie Pawle is my Great-Grandmother.

I am really struggling to find out;
- if Ann Moore & Susannah Pawle are the same person or not.
- if so, where she comes from, and where she goes.
- if Susannah did marry Charles, where and when.

I can't believe Charles started this 2nd family in a different city & so late in life!

By 1891 Henry, Agnes & Ada are living alone, with no sign of Ada or Susanah/Ann.

To see my tree, on ancestry I am jeremy_stubbings .

Any help would be extremely appreciated. Thanks!

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The Common Room / 20th Century Jewish brick wall
« on: Tuesday 09 March 21 16:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm fairly new to genealogy but have really enjoyed it so far & have traced almost all branches of my family back to the 18th Century which has been so interesting. However on one branch I am totally stuck in the 20th Century on & I have searched and searched but to no avail.

I am looking for a Harry Moss, for whom I have his marriage certificate, a couple of later census returns & not much else. Here is all I know:

He married Rose Phillips "in the register office by certificate before me" (according to the Rites & Ceremonies of the Church of England is crossed out) in the District of London City on 12th June 1913. Harry is listed as a Barman, aged 24, & both he & Rose have the address of 12 Providence Place, Aldgate E.C. Harry's father is "Moses Moss, clothier (deceased). The witnesses both have the surname Isaacs.

I then have 1926 & 1939 addresses for him, in Auckland Road, Bow (now Zealand Road) and in 1939 in Dagenham, Essex. I know a little about his later life but no one knows anything about his early life.

His wife Rose Phillips' family were all Jewish & lived in Aldgate/Spitalfields/Whitechapel etc from the 1700s, probably German/Dutch/Polish Jews. The family memories of Harry are all mixed up...some have said that he spoke English as a second language, others not. It is of common agreement that he was Jewish. He also worked as a Motor Driver & apparently sold ice creams & bread from a travelling cart by a London Park. I have also searched for his father Moses Moss & can find nothing concrete on him, it's a very common name. And I am aware that Moss could well have been a name changed or given at a port of entry.

I have tried searching on Jewish Gen but haven't got far. Any help would be extremely welcome & appreciated. Thanks.

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Other Countries / Trinidad (Indians)
« on: Tuesday 09 March 21 16:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi!

My partner's family descend from among the thousands of indentured workers who moved under the British Empire from India to Trinidad. Any pointers as to where to start my research would be fantastic, as nothing is showing in my searches on Ancestry.

Many thanks, Jeremy

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