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Derbyshire / I am trying to find the correct death date of my Eliza Whiteman
« on: Thursday 09 May 24 17:51 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find the correct death date of my Eliza Whiteman who is my 2nd great grandaunt.
I have painstakingly sorted out her 2 marriages and correct children but have nothing on her after 1901 census. I am looking for information after that including her date.
Another Eliza in the area married a person of the same name in the same area with the same job which is making this confusing.

My Eliza
Jan 1850 • Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Name: WHITEMAN, ELIZA Mother's Maiden Surname: INGER GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 15 Page 478

married William King in her first marriage
married Jan 1874 • Basford, Nottinghamshire, England to Joseph Pollard in her 2nd marriage (proven through DNA matches and documents)

Census
1901 Registration district   Basford
Sub-registration district   Ilkeston
RG13/3147/78 p 30
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Joseph Pollard may have died in 1912 but I am not sure if it is the right Joseph

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I am wondering when Eliza died if she re-married where she went after 1901?

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1891
Heanor, Derbyshire,
RG12/2663/59
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Possible death found ?
Deaths Jun 1929
Pollard    Elizabeth    79    Hayfield    7b   963

the right age but the 1921 census has this Eiza born in    
Warwickshire, not Heanor

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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Trying to find What happened to Eliza Whiteman
« on: Tuesday 23 April 24 05:04 BST (UK)  »
I have lost track of my great grandaunt Eliza Whiteman.

I am missing her exact birthday, the 1939 registry, her date of death. I was also wondering if she married a third time after the death of her 2nd husband.

(note: Not to waste peoples time I have tons of information on her birth family parents and sibling etc.  I have also fleshed out her children's trees down to living people on her first marriage. Also a kid from her 2nd marriage down to living people.

Her name is Eliza Whiteman

birth registration
Birth
Dec 1891 • Smalley, Derbyshire, England
Name: WEIGHTMAN, ELIZA Mother's Maiden Surname: CRESSWELL GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 558 (note alternative spelling of last name)

Her parents were Henry Whiteman and Alice Cresswell.

She married Sep 1908 Volume 7b page 1324 Marriages in Belper

Edward Cresswell
BIRTH OCT 1888 • Belper, Derbyshire, England
DEATH 18 SEP 1913 • Smalley Common, Derbyshire, England

They had three kids Sydne, Edith and Doris. Doris died young.
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Edward Cresswell died in 1913 in Doncaster Yorkshire. somehow, he worked in coal mines so likely something to do with that.

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Eliza Cresswell nee Whiteman married George Edwin Elliot 26 Sep 1914 in Stanley Common, Derbyshire, England (I can't find the volume and page number but I have the banns and photos)

I think they had a child

Albert Edwin Elliot
BIRTH 26 FEB 1920 • Shardlow, Derbyshire, England
DEATH APR 1978 • Dudley, West Midlands, England

the birth reg has mothers name as Whiteman rather than Cresswell

26 Feb 1920 • Shardlow, Derbyshire, England
Name Albert E Elliott Registration Date Apr 1920 Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration district Shardlow Inferred County Derbyshire Mother's Maiden Name Whiteman Volume Number 7b Page number 1199.

I trace Albert down to living people.

I have nothing about Eliza after this poing. so am looking for anything on her after 1920.

George Edwin Elliot died in Shardlow, Derbyshire, England in 1941
Volume   7b
Page   947

But I don't know if Eliza was still alive or with him???


 

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Can anyone read the last name
« on: Friday 05 April 24 20:14 BST (UK)  »

1911 census
Registration District Number   188
Sub-registration district   Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel   48
Piece   9458

I can read Dorathy Whiteman who is DNA related to me somehow through the Whiteman name

I think this is her birth date and location.
26 JUN 1896 • Canning Town, Essex

I was trying to read the other last names on the census. It says She is the daughter but has a different name.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Upton of Ufton or ?
« on: Friday 15 March 24 16:52 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to decipher the last name for Martha and Joseph on this image. it looks to me as Upton or ufton? what do you all think?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / First name I can't read.
« on: Wednesday 10 January 24 19:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I am looking at an old passenger list where relatives came over from south Africa to England
in 1910

***I am looking to see what the top persons first name written there is in the attached pic?

We assumed it was their father Lewis Edward Vowles the father because of the middle and last name match. That doesn't look like Lewis to me.
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The other known family on the document are:

Harriett Ann Vowles (mother)
(Sons)
Rodney E Vowles
Eric Vowles
Cyril Sydne Vowles
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The living person I am talking to said that in the mid 1950's he went to Rodney's house as a young man and was introduced to someone Rodney called his brother Al·be·it?

They were of British origin but lived in South Africa and Zimbabwe if that helps. 
 

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South Africa / trying to find info on Rodney Edwin VOWLES
« on: Wednesday 03 January 24 04:48 GMT (UK)  »

I am looking to find any information on

Rodney Edwin VOWLES
B:1905 Durban, South Africa
D:4 Feb 1974 umtali, Rhodesia, Eastern Cape, South Africa
 
and his wife

Elsie Mary ?

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I would like to know if they had any children.
What he did for a living
I have almost nothing about him

His parents where

Lewis Edward Vowles
1872–1947
BIRTH 22 JAN 1872 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
DEATH 15 JUN 1947 • umtali, south rhodesia, Africa

and

Harriett Ann  nee Widdowson (SHEPPERSON last name from 1st marriage)
1869–1947
BIRTH 8 JAN 1869 • Bulwell Forest, Nottinghamshire, England
DEATH 15 DEC 1947 • Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa

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He had two brothers
Cyril Sidney Vowles and
Arthur Eric Vowles

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This post is linked to my post

"Stuck and Need help on 2nd great grandparents, Thomas Johnson and Fanny Wilmot"

Basically my 3x great grandmother Margaret Wilmot was a confusing lady, 13ish pages of talented people and me sorted out her movements.

What I need help on is figuring out what happened to her children. I know my line down from Fanny but not her other 3 or 4 daughters.

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FANNY WIMOT Jones is my 2x great grandmother and we have her sorted out
mother   WILMOT 
GRO Reference: 3 Feb 1851 
 in BEDMINSTER  Volume 11  Page 70
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Hellen Jones
GRO
2 Jul 1853 • Bedminster, Bristol, Somerset, England
JONES, ELLEN WILMOT (Listed as Ellen in the GRO)
mother WILMOT
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter
in BEDMINSTER
Volume 05C Page 699

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Alice Mary Jones     
mother WILMOT 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter
in CLIFTON 
Volume 06A  Page 72

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MARGARET WILMOT JONES, 
Birth 15 July 1859 • Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
mother WILMOT
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter
in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 44

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She had a son ALBERT EDWARD WILMOT Jones who was born in 1862 and died in 1863
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Possible other child Amy Williams born abt 1866 Bristol St James
I would like to find out more about her


A bought birth Cert for Fanny stated that her father was Edward Jones. It is believed but not proven the Edward Jones even existed no marriage cert to Margret Wilmot and he never appears in any census.
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As stated in the other thread Margret Wilmot changed her name surname randomly to Williams
When she had Fanny,
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In 1860 she baptized all her girls
Bristol
St Philip, Holy Trinity
Parish Register
1835-1864
pages 247 - 248

all with her maiden name Wilmot.

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1871 census
Registration district   Clifton
Sub-registration district   Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel   2
Household schedule number   43
Piece   2546
Folio   29
Page number   7
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Margret and Amy living together
1881
Registration district   Kensington
Sub registration district   Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel   9
Neighbours   View others on page
Piece   45
Folio   90
Page number   9
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As for Margret's kids
I want to find out marriages, their Kid, 1881 census for daughter not on it, date of death etc.

I would also like to find out If Husband and father Edward Jones Existed? If Margret married another man last name Williams ?

Amy Williams GRO? father?
 


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Fanny's last name
« on: Wednesday 20 December 23 07:18 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to read Fanny's last name in this Banns.

Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 for John Wheatman
Heanor 1754-1806

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / hard to read name
« on: Sunday 12 November 23 21:04 GMT (UK)  »
can someone tell me what the name in the image is?

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