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« on: Monday 12 March 12 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello ( I have posted this in England General because my querie regards both Cheshire and Lancashire and didn't think it right to double post in both those county forums - if this is incorrect I apologise)
I am hoping someone can point me to some places/sites/databases to search online, and any help or advice, I am giving as much information that I have so as to save people from doing searches I have already done:
I'm looking for information for a GG-Grandfather; addresses or anything between 1861 and 1871.
John LANGFORD was born circa 1829 (I've not been able to find baptism or birth record for John or his siblings) in Great Saughall Cheshire and died 26 Station Road Ellesmere Pt Whitby Cheshire 1904 (I have his death cert and Last Will & Test)
I have what I believe to be 3 marriages for him ( in a letter written by my now deceased Aunt to her sister (also now deceased) she says her father told her, his Grandfather (John LANGFORD) married 3 times, of course she may have been wrong but I think I have found a second marriage for him, but to confirm it, without sending for the cert first, I'd like to try to find where he may have been living and his occupation - between 1861 and 1871 - (I have found his third marriage, it's the second marriage I'm trying to confirm) - I would imagine the actual marriage cert wouldn't contain much more than the parish register - am I right in assuming that or would the cert have more details?
The second marriage I think that is John's is:
1864 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec - Volume no 8B Page no 863 - John LANGFORD - FRUSER, Harriet - FRUSOR, Harriet-
In the Parish Register she is Harriet FRASER - a widow - John is also a widower -
Below are places I have John living, occupations, and other details:
1841 - census - John aged 13 - with parents and brother Robert living in Backford Gt Mollington Cheshire
1851- census - John at Parkgate Road Saughall Cheshire with widowed Mother and a nephew (son of John's brother Thomas) - John's occupation - Shoemaker - John was 'left' the 'tools of his trade' by his father Thomas a shoemaker, in 1847 -
In 1855 he married Elizabeth LLOYD in Cheshire (have marriage cert) His address was given as Mollington Cheshire - John's occupation is given as Insurance Agent -
1861 - census - John, at White Friars Cheshire, living with wife Elizabeth, 3 children, widowed mother and a niece/servant (daughter of John's sister Martha) - John's occupation - Boot & Shoe maker
I think Elizabeth Lloyd died in Dec 1861 -
1871 - census- John at 52 Bidder St Liverpool Lancashire with 3 children - here John has 'married' not widowed, but there is no wife listed living with him - John's occupation is given as: Commercial Traveller - and in the same census his brother Robert at Parkgate Rd Cheshire, has living with him and his wife, a 'sister-in-law' Harriet Langford aged 53 (1818) born in Chester - for Harriet she is 'Mar; and in the 'occupation' column it has 'Annuitant' -
If this Harriet was John's second marriage, I think her name was Harriet PULFORD who marriaed a George FRASER in 1854 -
But I've NOT found a death for a George FRASER
In the 1861 census there is a Harriet FRASER born 1818 in Chester, living at Crane St Chester (In the image it has Crane St but further along in the images it has New Crane St) -married, occupation; a Sea Captains wife - (New Crane St appears to be not too far from White Friars where John was living in the 1861 census) -
In the marriage parish records for a marriage in 1864 at St Jude's, West Derby - John LANGFORD a widower, living at Mersey Mount Warrington Lancashire ? (in a search Mersey Mount was in Birkenhead Cheshire?) and Harriet is listed also as a widow living at Walker St West Derby - (which was not too far from Bidder St where John was living in 1871) - both are listed as '21 yrs or above - If they were my John and the Harriet I found, then they were definitely 'above' 21 yrs old - (The transcription has them both as '21 yrs old' but the image has 'or above' so that's not a deterrent to me - That John's occupation is given as; Book keeper - I have searched the 1871 census' and have not found a John Langford, book keeper, with wife Harriet -
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