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The Common Room / Dead Wife's Sister Act - and bigamy?
« on: Monday 25 September 23 12:14 BST (UK)  »
This old thread partially answers my question: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=498893.msg3556573#msg3556573
A man in our family married Harriet in 1888, but she died in 1898. He then married Harriet's sister Miriam in 1901. That marriage was clearly unlawful because the Dead Wife's Sister Act was not repealed until 1907. Q1 - would there be any need for annulment documentation, or would they simply have ignored the marriage registration?
He then married again (someone else, unrelated) in 1904.
Q2. Since he had already married, even if unlawfully, and Miriam believed she was his wife and was still living, would this have constituted bigamy?
He behaved disgracefully in abandoning Miriam - but what was the legal position?

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Armed Forces / Re: W H Button served in Sudan 1880s ?
« on: Friday 22 September 23 23:37 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for this, ShaunJ. The dates fit, and that is an explanation for the Black Watch. I don't have a FindMyPast account, but can probably access it from our local library. And he did have a brother Arthur, born 1858 (and another brother Albert, born 1855). Arthur married in 1880 and went to Australia in 1883. He died in Sydney in 1896. Albert went to Australia sometime in the 1870s (missing from the 1881 census) and married in Ringwood, Victoria in 1882. His wife was Margaret Elizabeth Ross, from Inverness. (Is this the Highland connection?)
I guess it's possible that either of them also served in the army, in the 1870s, but haven't seen any suggestions of this.

-Steve

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Armed Forces / W H Button served in Sudan 1880s ?
« on: Friday 22 September 23 22:51 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to unravel the complicated life of my 2g-uncle William Henry Button, born in Brighton 1863, a hotel porter at Steine Hotel in 1881. Married in Brighton 1888, went to Australia 1891. It gets more complex later, though not directly relevant - but I have learned that in the 1880s between the census and his marriage, he served in the Black Watch regiment, in the Sudan campaign. I already knew that his younger brother George Ernest Button (born 1868) was with 1st Battalion S.Wales Borderers, Aldershot in 1891 and later transferred to the Black Watch. But my question now is - how do I find any information about William Henry's service record? He must have been in the army no more than 6 years or so, 1882-1888. And why a Sussex man (one of several in the extended family) in the Black Watch, a Scottish regiment? Do I need to visit the National Archives, or the Imperial War Museum, perhaps?

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census Brighton street address?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 23 09:28 BST (UK)  »
Brilliant! Many thanks. I've found the Pigot's directories useful before, but good to remind me of this! Previously I searched just for trades, but also useful in locating the gentry  :)

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Sussex Lookup Requests / 1841 census Brighton street address?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 23 08:52 BST (UK)  »
I have found Lettice White as a servant (one of several!) in the household of Charlotte Wheeler, and have an image of the census page HO 107/1121/3 page 13, but the only address information on this page is "Kemp Town".

Her nephew John Henley (tailor) in the 1841 census is at 1 Vine Place with his wife Esther, mother-in-law Mary Vine and other members of the Vine family, but we know that he also had a shop at 77 St James's Street which I think is within the Kemp Town district. Is there any way we can find more address information for the Charlotte Wheeler household - like at least a street name, perhaps?

By the way, in 1851 she was in a separate apartment at 3 Mighell Street, age 77, seamstress. No longer a servant.

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Mighell Street, Brighton
« on: Monday 04 September 23 22:18 BST (UK)  »
Postscript .... additional confirmation and an explanation. Mighell Street was the address of John Henley's unmarried aunt Lettice White in the 1851 census and on her 1858 death certificate. With no evidence that John's parents had ever moved to Brighton, her home probably offered some extra space for his growing family to use, and in return they offered some company for an ageing maiden aunt.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Deciphering Royal Navy service record
« on: Friday 01 September 23 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Thanks - wasn't aware that ncestry might also have TNA documents, though likely the same scanned copies. I don't have a paid subscription but can do a search and if they have it, could drop into the local library (yes, we do still have one here!) to check. A day trip to Kew is not all bad - there are other things I want to do there as well. I have copies of some of Augustus Dalby's logs from ships he served in, but still many more pages to photograph.

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Armed Forces / Re: HMS Suffolk and HMS Braave information (Napoleonic Wars)
« on: Friday 01 September 23 09:04 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks - yes, that makes sense. Augustus Dalby's active service as Master was on four different ships between 1801 and 1806 (I have copies of some of the logs) when his service record shows he was admitted to Haslar Hospital (with unidentified injuries). He then served on HMS Suffolk in 1808 before going to sea again for 10 months on HMS Owen Glendower in 1809. His final 4 years of naval service 1809-1814 were as Master on HMS Braave, another prison ship. He went on to live a long and prosperous retirement in Cornwall, including periods of service in the coastguard, HM Customs, and pilotage, dying in St Ives in 1853.

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Armed Forces / Re: HMS Suffolk and HMS Braave information (Napoleonic Wars)
« on: Friday 01 September 23 08:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for this, Tony - one that I had overlooked. However, if a prison ship by 1808, does this mean she was permanently in port? Why would she then need a Master (Augustus Dalby) and sailors (from the records at TNA)? Would she actually have gone to sea to receive prisoners from a naval engagement?

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