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Hi maryanne

Have just found the one trip...

Majestic departed Southampton, arrived New York 31st May 1911

Robert Beare, age 21, miner, born Ludgvan
Last residence, Ludgvan
Father George Beare, Ludgvan
Going to, Houghton Mich.
Friend, A Hall, address Houghton

Hope this helps

Yvonne

Hi everyone

I really need some help with a major brick wall regarding George Towner, my great grandfather


The census details that I have are:


1901 Household members, living at 73 Gleave Road, Selly Oak, Birmingham (civil parish Northfield, Worcestershire)

Head, George Towner, age 50 
Wife, Louisa, age 50

Children
Ada, age 20 
Harry Towner 18  (my grandfather)
Albert, age 15 
William, age 13 
Leah, age 10 
Gertrude, age 5

All of the family born Birmingham, Warwickshire
 
Lodger, Arthur Hall, age 21, born Herefordshire (married Ada in 1901)

RG13
Piece 2809
Folio 8
Page 8




1891 Household members, living at 8 Prospect Road, Moseley, Birmingham (civil parish Birmingham, Warwickshire)

No surname transcribed in index

All born Birmingham, Warwickshire

George, age 37 
Louisa, age 40
 
Children
Thomas, age 19 
Florine, age 17 
George, age 12 
Adeline, age 10 
Albert, age 5 
William, age 3 
Leah, age 6 months

my grandfather Harry born 12 March 1883 is not in the household and I haven't found him in this census


RG12
Piece 2399
Folio 35
Page 26


1881 Household members, living at 2 court 7 House, Brass Street, Aston, Birmingham

All born Birmingham

George, age 24 
Louisa, age 28

Children
 
Thomas, age 11 
Florence, age 6 
George, age 2 

Boarder George Butcher, age 33

RG11
Piece 2995
Folio 62
Page 28


George's age varies by six years over the three census and I know that this is not unusual but the marriage certificate in 1880 shows his age as 22.

The certificate details are:

Married at St Stephens Church, Birmingham, Warwickshire, 7th November 1880

George Towner, age 22, Batchelor, Machine Maker, Residence Brass Street, Father: John Towner occupation Carpenter
Louisa Baines, age 28, Spinster, Residence Brass Street, Father: John Baines occupation Plumber

Witnesses: John Poole, Matilda Rick.


My problem is whose children are the three with them in 1881 (and 1891) ? ? ?  I cannot find birth index entries under Towner or Baines or varients. There is an extracted baptism entry in the IGI for Florence in 1880.

Also I cannot find a birth entry for George Towner, nor can I find him in 1871 or 1861. In fact I cannot find a John Towner (father) either.

There is a James Turner and family in Birmingham at the time, he was born Oxfordshire and occupation Carpenter and I have tried to find a connection. Traced him back through the census and in 1841 he has a brother John and their father Thomas was a Carpenter but I cannot make a connection as I can't find the brother John after 1851 to eliminate him from my search.


It all feels somehow strange  ....so please, please can someone help or give me some ideas as I am brain whacked with this!     


Thanks for reading this major monologue

Any help at all will be very much appreciated

Best wishes

Yvonne


Added: Sorry should have said...to add to my feeling of strangeness, I cannot find Louisa Baines born Birmingham in earlier census nor birth index! There is a Louisa Baines of about the right age born in Leicestershire and having a father John Baines but of course I cannot really make the connection at the moment.

Hi Tracy

Really sorry that I haven't replied to your last message      I didn't receive notification, unfortunately!

The immigration year reference is on the census. It isn't always reliable as it's accuracy is down to who gave the information to the enumerator as well as the enumerator.

I will have a look now to see if there is any info for James and Rose!

Best wishes

Yvonne

Searched for a Martha born 1881 +/-2 in England, living in Ohio in 1910 and one very promising result came up:

99 West Water, Center Township, Columbiana, Ohio

Head, John W Davis, age 31, born Ohio, parents born Ohio, occupation Miner Clay
Wife, Martha H, age 28, Marriage 1 for 7 years, mother to 5 children with 4 living, born England, parents born England
Children
Theda E, daughter, age 5 born Ohio
Paul B, son, age 3 born Ohio
and twins? Marion L and Mildred A, daughters, age 10 months, born Ohio


added: just read shellyesq's message which appears to confirm this Martha as Luke and Sarah's daughter