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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Great Redisham / Redisham - Tithe Map - MAYHEW
« on: Wednesday 31 August 16 12:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks.  old-maps seems to require a subscription, but the national Library of Scotland has the 1904 25" map available free (I strongly recommend the NLS maps site!, and not just for Scotland).

I suppose I may be able to identify Michael Mayhew's farm from the censuses, I'd still like to see the tithe map.  Is there anywhere other than Suffolk Record Office or National Archives likely to have it?
[I've seen plenty of reproductions of tithe maps reproduced for particular parishes, but don't know whether there's generally just one original or many.]

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Chediston Parish - ADAMS / TOWNROE
« on: Wednesday 31 August 16 12:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the further information, though I'm not sure finding more alternatives counts as progress!

In favour of Elizabeth Adams of Chediston, her mother remarrying could be a good reason to move to another parish.

In favour of the Mendham alternatives, there is a family connection with Mendham: John Mayhew's son Elias (1785-1860) farmed there from 1818/19 onwards.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Chediston Parish - ADAMS / TOWNROE
« on: Wednesday 31 August 16 09:47 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for these quick replies.
That John Mayhew's spouse Elizabeth Adams came from Wrentham makes it unlikely she's the one born in Chediston.  But I can't find any Elizabeth Adams from in or near Wrentham :-(

Incidentally, the record I'd seen said Elizabeth Adams of Chediston was christened on 20 Mar 1752 not 1751 - is this the difference between new and old style dates (1751/2 will have been the last year in England for which the official year ended on 25 March I think)?

Thanks again for your help.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Great Redisham / Redisham - Tithe Map - MAYHEW
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 15:47 BST (UK)  »
If anyone has access to the Tithe map for the parish of Great Redisham or Redisham (date probably 1840s) I would be grateful if they can look up what was owned or tenanted by Michael Mayhew (1787-1870).  He was one of the sons of John Mayhew (1747-1823), of whom several were farmers, but Michael seems to be the one who succeeded to his father's farm. [Elias (1785-1860) farmed in the Norfolk part of Mendham, Robert (1795-1831) (my ggg-gf) in Walpole.]

Any relevant information - or advice on how to find the exact farm of an ancestor when one only knows their dates and parish - will be welcome.

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Chediston Parish - ADAMS / TOWNROE
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 15:37 BST (UK)  »
I have an ancestor John Mayhew, farmer of Redisham, who with his wife Elizabeth had 11 children at Westhall between 1772 and 1795; his will of 1823 gives much information on them.

Various family trees identify his marriage date as 13 Nov 1770 and give his wife as Elizabeth Adams.
The IGI doesn't have Westhall marriages between 1753 and 1813 so I don't know what the source is for this.  [Info on a source would be welcome, especially as otherwise there's no firm evidence that his wife's surname was Adams.]

Some family trees go on to identify her as the Eliz. Adams christened at Chediston on 20 Mar 1752, the oldest of perhaps 5 children of John Adams and Rebecca.  And there's a marriage at Chediston in 1751 [claimed in an ancestry.co.uk Family Tree  to be on 3 Sep] of John Adams and Rebecca Townroe.

My lookup request is for the marriage of John Adams & Rebecca Townroe, and for the christening of Eliz. and/or her siblings Mary (9 Jan 1755) and John (30 Dec 1756, 26 Mar 1758, 1 Jan 1763 - presumably the first two Johns died as infants), in the hope that these entries might give other information, such as their residence, names of witnesses or John's occupation.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Cornwall / Re: MARTYN Family of St Columb Minor
« on: Tuesday 05 July 16 23:01 BST (UK)  »
Your Dr William Martyn (30 Sep 1815 - 21 Sep 1896) is referred to on the first page of a diary of my great-great grandparents George Walker and Susan Gertrude Liddell. On 9th June 1860 they moved to Wimbledon; two days later the entry reads `Dear Jemmy not well. We have not chosen our Doctor yet, so I wrote up to William Martyn.' His brother Silas Edward Martyn (1817-87), a warehouseman, also features in the diary.

Their father was Dr Thomas Martyn (1774-1826); he was a brother of the William (1775-1815) commemorated in the window, and they married sisters, Sarah and Elizabeth Darke respectively.  Their sister Mary Martyn (1770-1845) was a grandmother of Susan Gertrude Liddell, and thus a gggg-grandmother of mine.

If you send me a message with your email I could send you my annotated copy of the tree giving the numerous descendants up to 1850 of Thomas Martyn and Gertrude Turnavine who married in 1696.

Best wishes, Denis


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Cornwall / Re: MARTYN Family of St Columb Minor
« on: Tuesday 05 July 16 13:21 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I can place them on the Martyn tree; I've pasted him and his children below.  He was son of John M (1737-99), son of Joseph, son of Thomas ..

How do you connect to the C19 Martyns?

Denis

            4 William MARTYN b: 1775 c: 27 DEC 1775, of Trevithick?
- drowned in the Gannel (estuary, Crantock/Newquay) 15 Oct 1815 acc. Bibliotheca Cornubiensis
- m Elizabeth Darke 11 Nov 1802, Hatherleigh
                5 John Darke MARTYN b: 1804 - d 1877
- b Trevithick, 30 Nov 1803, d Padstow 27 Jan 1877; m 29 Jan 1834 Bodmin SSH of Treharrock, St Kew
                  + Susan Symons HAMBLY b: 1805 c: 20 JAN 1805 d: BEF 1871
                5 Elizabeth MARTYN
                5 Caroline MARTYN - b 1807/8, d ca Feb 1899, St Columb
- paid for "Martyn window" at St C Min
                5 Mary MARTYN - b 1808/9, m ca Aug 1852
                  + Constantine Bradford JOHNS b: 1805 -(also m(1) Mary Martyn, ca May 1838)
                5 William MARTYN b: 1811 - merchant & farmer at Trevemper Bridge, 1851
- leased Polwhele, Trevemper Bridge, from his brother in 1836
                5 Gertrude MARTYN
                5 Thomas MARTYN b: 1813 (1812?)-1893 (Bodmin ca Nov)
                  + Susanna Symons MARTYN b: 1812
                   

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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 15:32 GMT (UK)  »
Ref. James d 1849 - I have a note of that inscription being on a wall plaque in st Petroc's, Bodmin, rather than outside on an obelisk.  Is that right?

Denis

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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
PS  Have found details of the death of William Henry Liddell.  He was at home in Portsea, having stood down from command of the Tamar about 2 weeks previously.  He was found dead from a fall outside his house early on the morning of 7 June 1880.  The coroner's court the following day found that death was from a fall, `but that there was not sufficient evidence to show how that fall was produced'.  He had been complaining of headaches and gout, and may have been `somewhat depressed'.
This is from the full coverage in the Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle, and summary in the Pall Mall Gazette, both 9 Jun 1880. Quite a few other papers also covered the case.

An unlucky family: his oldest brother James (Lt, RE, 1829-49) died in a spectacular shipwreck in the south Atlantic, the next, John Worthy Liddell (engineer, 1831-64) died in  Venezuela aged 33; his youngest brother and sister didn't marry, nor did his own 3 children.

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