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Hi,

Thankyou very much for your help, Valda.

Yes, I was thinking that the St Martin in the Fields marriage was more likely. As there does not seem to be any other family connection to London itself.

Elizabeth Smith Dent is alive in 1851 census and lists her place of birth as Cobham, Surrey. She is living with her married daughter, Sarah Rumbol.

Are the the Burial records for John and Martha Dent on IGI?

I think that the Thomas Dent that you found was a witness at Sarah Den't marriage.

Thanks so much for that.

Rebecca 

Have you any idea where Ann Blunt was born?
As in 1851 Amelia, with 2 illegt. children and Christopher with wife Amelia and children, are both in Wales. 1841 Christopher is in Wiltshire.

I am having trouble finding Amelia in 1841. I was hoping that maybe they are with possible relatives who could have brought them up when Ann died 1828. I hate to think they ended up in a workhouse

Trish

Hi Trish,

Ann Blunt was born 1799 in Alvington to parents Thomas and Susanna. I'm not sure if they ended up in workhouse or not, I hope that they had some relatives too as living in a workhouse or orphanage would have been a miserable existence.

Yes, I did notice that the other siblings ended up moving to Wales too ... Christopher Blunt lived in Woolaston for about 20 years and it looks like Amelia did too.

I noticed when I was searching for Philip Blunt on the Gloucester Records Archives Database that Christopher Blunt is on some non-conformist catalog's too.

Do you know exactly what non-conformists were?

I also noticed that you are researching the Shaws?

Rebecca 

I just thought that I would add -

This afternoon I searched the last name Blunt on the Gloucester Genealogical Archives Database ( http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx ) and found ......

Philip Blunt from Hewelsfield in Gaol in 1842!!!

Perhaps that's the reason he changed his name. I'm not sure what for or for how long he was in there .... but it answers some questions.

It looks his brother Christopher was a non-conformist too.

It's very interesting ....

Rebecca

Hi Osprey,

No that wasn't my post on the Forest of Dean website - it was the other person researching Philip Powell.

We think that Philip Powell was actually Philip Blunt born 1822, Hewelsfield (which is not far from Woolaston) to unamarried mother Ann Blunt. Philip's brother Christopher Blunt spent about 20 years living in Woolaston too.

Following on from Harriett having the additional surname Blunt in one census we tried looking for a Philip Blunt and found one which has alot of similarities to Philip Powell. It would explain why we can't find  a baptism record and why there is no trace of the same Philip Powell in 1851 or 41 census. 

In 1851 he is  a railway labourer and married to a Mary Ann Blunt - but I can't find a marriage reg for that marriage. There is a Mary and Philip Blunt to match the dates and places that Mary and Philip Powell would have been born but not an Elizabeth so we think that Philip might have changed his name sometime in the late 1850's.

We ordered Charles Mason Powell's death certificate and Philip Powell had died before Charles in 1867 so that narrows the date of his death down.

At the moment we are trying to find a reason for Philip to have changed his name. It was obviously a well kept secret though because if it wasn't for Harriett Powell having Blunt added onto her name in one census then I don't think that we would have ever made the connection!

Thanks to everyone for helping to find Harriett Powell because if we didn't find her in 1871 census then we wouldn't have found a connection between Philip Powell and Philip Blunt.

Rebecca

Hi Dawn,

Thankyou very much for that. I really appreciate it 

It was helpful, thanks. I was trying to find some more information on James Rumbol (like maybe his relatives were the witnesses) because I cannot find a birth record for him. I'll just have to keep on searching.

 But, the record gives me some more information on Sarah Dent which is good anyway 

Thanks, Rebecca