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Yes, the 1788 marriage to Mary Taylor is the same fellow. And the 1807 marriage to Ann Riley. Both by licence and I have the licence copies.
Lawrence was a chapman at the 1788 marriage, which I think meant he was a man who took yarn around to home weavers and then collected their finished cloth and re-sold it. Linen cloth in the Leigh area I think.
In 1801 he took over the tenancy of Hope Carr Farm.

Lawrence was RC, so no baptism on record. My favourite candidate for him on the 1767 Return of Papists is a 19-year-old plasterer in Burnley, so Eastham was a bit of a shock - 30 miles from Leigh in the opposite direction!

Barbara

Just the transcription on the Lancs OPC site. You are right,  I need to see the original.
Barbara

My friend is descended from a Margaret Sprung of Liverpool, elder sister of John Joshua Sprung (born 1881) and Isabella Sprung (born 1874).

The family is on the 1881 census in Sinclair Street. Liverpool at RG11/3708 f34 page 3. Little John Josh. aged 3 months is at 97 Warwick Street Liverpool, living with his grandmother Margaret Cregeen, ref RG11/3636 f 113 p8. I think his mother had died soon after his birth.

The eldest brother Thomas is at Onchan on the Isle of Man, a cigar maker, boarding with a cigar maker called Dalyrimple. RG11/5604 f28 p8.

Their father was a Carl Lewis or Carl Ludewig Sprung, born Liverpool, a cigar maker, son of another Carl Ludewig Sprung, also a cigar maker, who is reputed to have been from Germany. His name suggests it.

This looks like your family. I'd be interested in hearing from you, and also getting in touch with the other Liverpool family you have heard from. Will you send me a PM with your e-mail address?

Does anyone live near Penllyn Church (St John the Baptist) who would be willing to go and photograph a memorial for me?  It's possible it is inside the church, but I'm not sure.  Glamorgan FHS have not transcribed the Penllyn MIs.

When William Salmon died in 1896 his will said
I direct my Executrix to erect two monuments to the memory of my late son Thomas Deere Salmon and myself, one at Wickham Market Suffolk the other in Penllyne Chapel of Ease.

I have a picture of the one at Wickham Market, but I'd like to know if his executor Emily carried out his wishes at his local church, too.

Many thanks if anyone could do it.

Mystifier - my apolgies. No insult to your skills was intended, I was just surprised at how different it looked without the background.  Thanks also to Images of Time and Bob0287 - great stuff.  It is a very hard picture to make anything of and all three of you have done wonders!

Niksmum commented that it might be better to go back to the original newspaper.  I will try to do that, but I am not sure that it would help much, The original was probably not much bigger than a postage stamp, and newspaper reproduction of pictures in those days was intrinsically dotty.

Thanks again all of you.

Barbara