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Ireland / Re: Birth Certificates - Adopted Children
« on: Sunday 29 August 10 10:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for your assistance, once again.
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Ireland / Birth Certificates - Adopted Children
« on: Saturday 28 August 10 23:44 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me how the parents of adopted children were recorded on birth registers in Ireland in the mid 19th century? Would an adopted ancestor be identifiable from the publicly available records?
Thank you in anticipation.
Thank you in anticipation.
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Down / Robert Jocelyn Crawley - Australian grave
« on: Thursday 19 August 10 07:47 BST (UK) »
I recently came across and photographed the grave of Robert Jocelyn Crawley, born Ratheriland 8 May 1848, and died at Bourke, New South Wales, Australia on 27 August 1880.
If any family member or researcher would like a copy please PM me.
Terry
If any family member or researcher would like a copy please PM me.
Terry
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Antrim / Kerr, Thomas and William-Australian Grave Photos
« on: Thursday 19 August 10 07:40 BST (UK) »
I have recently photographed the graves of Thomas Kerr and his brother William Thomas Kerr at Louth, New South Wales, Australia.
The inscription on Thomas's headstone records his birth at "Kilcurry, Co Antrim, Ireland". He died on 10 February 1889 aged 23 years.
William's headstone records his death on 26 January 1924 at the age of 64.
If any relative etc would like a copy of the photos please PM me.
Terry
The inscription on Thomas's headstone records his birth at "Kilcurry, Co Antrim, Ireland". He died on 10 February 1889 aged 23 years.
William's headstone records his death on 26 January 1924 at the age of 64.
If any relative etc would like a copy of the photos please PM me.
Terry
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Dublin / Re: Henry Elliott SMITH x 2, Father and Son
« on: Monday 16 August 10 06:57 BST (UK) »
Following further research I now think that the mystery surrounding the missing records of the marriage of Henry Elliott SMITH and Isabella Anne BRABAZON is now solved, thanks to all who participated.
Isabella's father, Rev John Vignoles Brabazon was Church of Ireland, while Henry Elliott Smith was a Primitive Methodist. Apparently that was not a good basis for a marriage. Coming from a secular country I had not previously appreciated the significance of religion in family matters. It appears that Rev John may not have approved of the wedding of his daughter to Henry Smith, and that she therefore may have married secretly under the name of Isabella Browne. It is possible to reconcile the differences between the official records of the children and our family records, if we allow for family names to be derivations of actual names, and if one birth is put in a different sequence. There is still some way to go to be certain, but this thesis seems to be the most likely explanation.
I am still seeking information on the groom's father.
Thank you to all who participated for your greatly appreciated assistance, and to this wonderful forum in general!
Terry
Isabella's father, Rev John Vignoles Brabazon was Church of Ireland, while Henry Elliott Smith was a Primitive Methodist. Apparently that was not a good basis for a marriage. Coming from a secular country I had not previously appreciated the significance of religion in family matters. It appears that Rev John may not have approved of the wedding of his daughter to Henry Smith, and that she therefore may have married secretly under the name of Isabella Browne. It is possible to reconcile the differences between the official records of the children and our family records, if we allow for family names to be derivations of actual names, and if one birth is put in a different sequence. There is still some way to go to be certain, but this thesis seems to be the most likely explanation.
I am still seeking information on the groom's father.
Thank you to all who participated for your greatly appreciated assistance, and to this wonderful forum in general!
Terry
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Dublin / Re: Henry Elliott SMITH x 2, Father and Son
« on: Thursday 12 August 10 22:19 BST (UK) »1928 London, England > Freemantle, Australia-
J. Semple (male) age 47
F.H. Semple (female) age 48
W. J. Semple (male) age 17
L.L. Semple (male) age 11
Leslie Lloyd Semple birth July/Sept.1916 Dublin South registration district volume 2 page 527
Mayors of Derry (city) - 1915 Robert N. Anderson, 1963 Albert Anderson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_Derry
Short biography of Albert Wesley Anderson (23 July 1907-1985)-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Anderson_%28politician%29
Thanks aghadowey, that is the correct family. I don't feel so bad now knowing that the records in relation to HE and Isabella Smith appear to be incomplete. Thank you very much for your efforts on my behalf.
Terry
Terry
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Dublin / Re: Henry Elliott SMITH x 2, Father and Son
« on: Thursday 12 August 10 22:14 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this Isabella has become crossed with your one - but a death for a widow would be recorded in her married name (i.e. Smith).
Shane
Thanks Shane,
On reflection I think that you are correct and that the dates for this Isabella have been incorrectly assumed for my Isabella.
Terry
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Dublin / Re: Henry Elliott SMITH x 2, Father and Son
« on: Thursday 12 August 10 22:09 BST (UK) »Canberraterry
The following is a long shot
The Irish Times newspaper for the 27th January 1870 on Page 3 in the Law Report makes reference to a Robert William Elliott (Accountant) Insolvent employed by Messrs Guinness & Mahon at No.17 College Green , Dublin.
I clearly note the different surname but am still wondering.....
Regards Quaxer
Quaxer,
That is a great bit of information. thank you. Family history is a bit vague here, but the second christian name of Elliott reputedly was in honour of an uncle (real or "adopted") who worked in Guinness Mahon Bank, possibly as a director, and was instrumental in assisting the younger one when his father died early. This Elliott may have been that one or a relative at least.
Terry
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Dublin / Re: Henry Elliott SMITH x 2, Father and Son
« on: Thursday 12 August 10 14:15 BST (UK) »Looks like Lily married Robert Newton Anderson-Yes, that is the one. They lived in Victoria Street, Londonderry and then moved to Deanfield House, also in Derry. He had woollen mills I think, and his son Albert ("Bertie") was later Mayor of Derry.
ANDERSON, Sir Robert Newton, Knt... of Gortecar House, Co. Fermanagh; b. 1871; in. 1903 Lily E., dau. of Henry Elliott Smith, Esq., of Dublin. see here