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« on: Thursday 28 September 23 16:47 BST (UK) »
Gadget
The trees I looked at had a Philip Gunter (1400 - 1470 in Abergavenny) marrying an Elizabeth Gethin. I dicsounted the German hint that you found, but assumed that someone had got their wires crossed.
There is a pedigree that names individuals similar to those in the one tree I looked at (if not the same individuals). although dates out a bit - which could be understandable. I don't know if Bronwen is looking for a German Gunter family, but I assume she is looking for an Abergavenny one, since that is what most others are listing (albeit with un-sourced facts cobbled together from the trees of others. as you said).
One article that lists a pedigree:https://journals.library.wales/view/1337678/1339467/29#?xywh=-455%2C333%2C2917%2C1872