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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Friday 12 April 24 16:07 BST (UK)  »
lots on Keziah Moberly/Mobley here. The second one looked more complete but I didn't compare carefully.

as found at https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nolenancestry/genealogy/page6.html
as found at http://lancehallgenealogy.com/mobley/Moberly.html

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I think the connection to Yorkshire might be the Moberlys. There were a lot of them there when I tried just the name and county at ancestry, and not too many Worleys.

I didn't try Meador, that could be the connection also, since your matches are to Dorcas Meador, daughter of Keziah Mobley.

Anyway I started searching for Mobley + Yorkshire + Maryland (because that is where Keziah's earliest American ancestor is found, according to one of those links.

I found this:
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~mobleyb/genealogy/Family_History.html


1 Edward Moberley, b. WFT Est. 1531-1587, Yorkshire Co., England, d. WFT Est. 1569-1621,
m. WFT Est. 1555-1621 ________
1.1 William Moberley, b. WFT Est. 1569-1615, England, d. WFT Est. 1609-1659, England
1.1.1  Edward Moberley, b. WFT Est. 1609-1642, England, d. WFT Est. 1666-1701, England
1.1.1.1  William Moberley, b. 1665, England, d. WFT Est. 1699-1756
m. Phoebe Lovejoy, b. 1665, England, d. WFT Est. 1699-1760 [Phoebe is rumored to have been a "governess" for William Penn's family in PA., but no records remain to support this claim]
1.1.2 John Mobberly I, b. WFT Est. 1606-1635 in Cheshire, England, d. WFT Est. 1658-1697.
m. Abt. 1655 Elizabeth Woods, England, b. WFT Est. 1615-1638 in Cheshire, England , d. WFT Est. 1659-1709
1.1.2.1 John Moberley, Sr., b. Abt 1657, England, d. 1727, Maryland.
m. (1) Abt. 1686 Anne Biggers, England, b. Bet. 1658 - 1660, England, d. Bef. 1708, Maryland. [dau. of  John Biggers, (Col.)]
m. (2) Bef. 1708 Elizabeth Robertson, b. WFT Est. 1655-1690, Prince George Co., MD, d. WFT Est. 1711-1750.
m. (3) 2/28/1716 Susannah Scaggs, Queens Parrish, Prince George Co., MD, b. WFT Est. 1657-1699, d. WFT Est 1719-1753.
1.1.2.1.1 William Mobberly, b. 1692/93, d. WFT Est. 1694-1783
1.1.2.1.2  Edward Mobberly, b. 1696, d. WFT Est. 1697-1786

note: The last man, Edward, is in the files about Keziah's ancestry.

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here is something on the Meador family, where they were before Anson Co, NC, and their connections with the Mobleys.

https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~theduffypapers/family/meador/1738_jason_meador.htm
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thoughts:
If the Meadors and Mobleys were that close to each other, and the Meadors were Quakers, then maybe the Mobleys were also. And maybe that is why they left England. I don't know, I didn't get that far.

None of those pages except for the Morleys at werelate.org have sources, so use with caution.

One of the pages, at werelate.org I think, got into the proof that Wiley Worley's wife Dorcas was the daughter of Thomas Meador and Keziah Mobley. I think a pretty strong point is the 1830 census of Dorcas' household with the 80 to 90 year old woman in it. Thomas died before 1826 - there are records in that year of his land going to a son and Keziah relinquishing rights to it.

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How far back have you traced your cousin's line in England? Does he/she have anyone named Mobley or Meador in their ancestry?

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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Friday 12 April 24 15:42 BST (UK)  »
1830 Census for Dorcas, Willis Worley and Isaac Worley
1830 Census, Dorcas, Isaac, Willis Worley, Whitley CO KY                                                                   

Dorcas Worley household
       1 m 5 to 9
       2 m 10 to 14
       1 m 15 to 19
       1 f 10 to 14
       1 f 40 to 49
       1 f 80 to 90

Willis Worley household

3 m 0 to 4
1 m 5 to 9
1 m 20 to 29
1 f 20 to 29

Isaac Worley household
1 m 20 to 29
2 f 0 to 4 [Rachel and Dorcas]
1 f 20 to 29
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHPZ-Q3V

note the 80 to 90 year old female with Dorcas, probably her mother.

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 Worley is an unincorporated community and coal town in McCreary County, Kentucky, United States.
 on Big South Fork of the Cumberland River. There is a Worley Hill Top Road.

 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Worley,+KY+42647/@36.7020917,-84.5509055,15.17z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x885d1232b42e0577:0x913bef77e0a251b6!8m2!3d36.6995218!4d-84.533828!16s%2Fm%2F0494vmq?entry=ttu

 McCreary County was formed in 1912 from parts of Wayne, Whitley, and Pulaski Counties, so this is the right place.
 https://history.ky.gov/markers/mccreary-county-1912

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The pages for the Worleys at werelate.org had some sources and good information.
https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Wiley_Worley_(2)
click on other family members also.
Wiley's page was last modified 14 March 2024, so there might be someone there you can correspond with.

Note: It looks they have two Cader Powell Worleys confused. It looks like Dorcas and Wiley Worley had a son named Cader b 1823. then Isaac and Margery Davis had their son Cader in 1857.

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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Friday 12 April 24 15:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi. I enjoyed this as you will probably be able to tell.
Military records:
I didn't see any reference to military service for Wiley Worley or his son Isaac. Wiley was born in 1775, so he wouldn't have been in the American Revolution. His father might have been, if you figure out who he was. Isaac was born about 1804, so he would have been 57 when the American Civil War started. I suppose he could have gone if he wanted to, but I doubt that they came looking for him. Maybe some of his sons were. They could have been on either side, if you start looking.

I started looking.

Matthew was a Union soldier (the North)
His wife applied for a widow's pension:
United States Civil War Widows and Other Dependents Pension Files, 1861-1934
Name   Marjory Owens Worley
Event Type   Pension
Event Date   1861 - 1934
Event Place   Kentucky
Relationship to Veteran   Widow
Veteran's Name   Mathew F Worley
Veteran's Military Unit   1 Kentucky Cavalry
Veteran's Military Company   H
Application Number   WC99829
Affiliate Record Group   15
Affiliate ARC Identifier   300020
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXXW-4NZ

Affiliate Publication Title   Index to Compiled Service Records of Volunteer Union Soldiers Who Served in Organizations From the State of Kentucky.
Name   Matthew F. Worlby
Alias   Mathew Woerly, Mathew F.
Military Beginning Rank   Private
Military Final Rank   Corporal
Military Side   Union
Military Unit   1st Regiment, Kentucky Cavalry
Military Company   H
Event Type   Military Service
Event Date   from 1861 to 1865
Event Place   Kentucky, United States
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F9R9-128

note there was also a 1st Kentucky Cavalry Regiment on the Confederate side.

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Andrew was a Union soldier as well.

Andrew Worley
Age   27 years
Birth Year (Estimated)   1835
Military Unit   Twelfth Infantry, Wh-Z AND Thirteenth Infantry, A
Event Type   Military Service
Event Date   1862
Event Place   Kentucky
Affiliate Publication Number   M397
Affiliate Publication Title   Compiled Service Records of Volunteer Union Soldiers Who Served in Organizations from the State of Kentucky

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8NN-X29


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/69655856/andrew-j.-worley

burial record: 4 July 1862, no location.
at ancestry

These two pages at werelate have some added and maybe contradictory information:
Matthew's page said he died September 1864 at Andersonville prison. The records I found didn't name a date or place.
https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Matthew_Worley_%281%29

Andrew's page says Andrew J died at Vicksburg, Mississippi, 15 July 1862. His burial record that I found said 4 July 1862, with no location.
https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Andrew_Worley_%281%29

 
Thomas Meador served in the military during the American Revolution.
http://lancehallgenealogy.com/mobley/Moberly.html
and https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nolenancestry/genealogy/page6.html

In 1743, Thomas' father Jason Meador was fined for being a Quaker and refusing to bear arms. And for not attending the local Anglican church.
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~theduffypapers/family/meador/1738_jason_meador.htm

Haven't looked at the Mobleys for military records yet.

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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 17:53 BST (UK)  »
P.S. so the wife in 1820 was the female 26 to 44.
extra males  can always be a farmhand, one of their brothers, or one of their fathers, or other relative.

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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 17:47 BST (UK)  »
1850 - you're right, That should be Polly, not Patty as I thought.And Dorcas is 2, not 21. I don't see twins. The column after the number tells you if the person is male or female. Dorcas is a female name (from the Bible).

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The transcription of the 1820 census at ancestry for Wiley Worley is incorrect. You need to look at the image. The census enumerator did not include a column that he should have, namely for free white males 16 to 18. It looks like the transcriber just assumed that all the columns were what they were supposed to be.

What made me catch the mistake was that it looked like he had 3 foreigners, not naturalized, in his household out in the middle of nowhere in Kentucky in 1820. I kept thinking I counted the columns wrong. I ran the numbers half a dozen times before I realized the enumerator left out that one category.

See https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/index_of_questions/ and find 1820 in the left column. Bookmark it or copy the information for all the years into a file and save it. It will make your life a lot easier, especially for 1790 to 1840.

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earlier question - the U.S. censuses were not taken "on the night of." They were supposed to reflect the status of the household on the date of the census, but I wonder if they ever did.

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slaves were recorded in separate columns. see the column headers on Wiley Worley's page for 1820, for example.


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random thoughts.

Isaac Worley named two children Willis and Dorcas. That is one reason to think you have the right parents for him, but is there any other reason to think so? It seems like people say Isaac and a brother Willis were born in Anson County, NC. Is there proof? And was Wiley Worley the only Worley in Anson County when Isaac and his brother were born? The story from "The Wileys of Whitely County, Kentucky" on Wiley's page at familysearch says he died there. If true, it would be some evidence that he was from there.

That list of transcribed wills of Whitley County does not include Willis/Wiley. If he died suddenly at a young age, that would make sense. Too bad, since a will might have named his sons. Is there a household headed by a Dorcas in 1830 or 1840? Are Isaac or his brother in it? I haven't looked for it.

I wonder why Isaac had so many children before he named one after his father and mother? Have you found the Walkers? What were Elizabeth's parents' names?

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How does anyone know that the same Isaac married Elizabeth Walker, Margery Davis and Elizabeth Cassidy? I haven't looked yet, it was getting late. Were there any other Isaac Worleys in the area at the time, like a cousin or nephew? Are there death records for the first two wives, or birth or death records for any of the children? They might name their parents, including the mother's maiden name, if they died late enough.

It matters because you have DNA matches with children of the two Elizabeths, so if they were different people, you would be sure your match was with Isaac's line. Do you match any children of Margery Davis?

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What do you know about Isaac's brother Willis? Did he name a daughter Dorcas?

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Is the name Worley common in Yorkshire?

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I won't get back to this today, but maybe later in the week or over the weekend.

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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 00:24 BST (UK)  »
the "said to be" information is from the family search tree which is worth looking at
tree:
for Isaac https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LHTZ-95F
for Willis/Wiley https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L2CZ-999

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United States of America / Re: WORLEY of Kentucky
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 00:18 BST (UK)  »
As I counted the household of Willis Worley in 1820 there is room for a Dorcas and Abigail
here is what I found on the family.

 Willis or Wiley Worley (1775 - 1828, Youngs Creek, Whitely County, KY)
   said to be in Knox County, KY in 1809
   last mention said to be 1828 Tax records of Whitley County, KY

1810 Census Knox County, KY
3 Free white males 0-9 years of age.
0 Free white males 10 -15 years of age.
0 Free white males 16 -25 years of age including heads of families.
1 Free white males 26 -44 years of age including heads of families.
0 Free white males 45 years and older.including heads of  families.
1 Free white females 0-9 years of age.
1 Free white females 10-15 years of age.
0 Free white females 16-25 years of age including heads of families.
1 Free white females 26-44 years of age including heads of families.
   
   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2P-7GJ

 
   1820 census: in Whitely, KY
   
   3 m under 10
   2 m 10 to 15
   0 m 16 to 25
   0 m 26 to 45
   1 m 45 and up

   2 f under 10
   0 f 10 to 15
   0 f 16 to 25
   1 f 26 to 44
   3 engaged in agriculture
   
   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLR-YCJ
                           
** Isaac Worley (1804, Arkansas - 1869)
 + Elizabeth Walker (1809, Kentucky - )
    said to have married 10 August 1826, Wayne County
   
  1840 Census Wayne County, KY
  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHTP-JW5
 
  1850 Census Wayne County, KY
      - 1850: Rachel 23?, Dorcus 21, Matthew 18, Andrew 17, Simeon 15, Sara 13, Lucinda 12, Patty 11, Willis 8, Regalus 6, Harry, 4
  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65P-FCH
 
  1860 Census Wayne County, KY
  PO Box: Monticello
  Isaac 55, NC
  Elizabeth 56, KY
  Matthew 27, Darkie 12, Elizabeth 9, Arrilde 5, George Alfred 3, Cader, 2
  next household:
  Simeon Worley, 24, Lucinda, 25, Willis 18
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZB1-FSQ


 male born to Isaac Worley and Elizabeth Walker, 7 June 1852, Wayne County, KY
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZB1-FSQ

 
 Isaac Worley married Margaret Davis 28 May 1854, Wayne County, at Baxter Davis[' house]
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJ3-9WWX
 she is said to have died 1857

 married Elizabeth Cassidy 24 April 1858, Wayne County


 find Whitely County, Kentucky Will Book 1, 1818 - 1854
 https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/270403-whitley-county-kentucky-will-book-1-1818-1854?offset=22

 no Worley transcribed here
 they say the images are at familysearch: search > catalog > "Kentucky, Whitley" > search, click on "Probate Records"
 http://genealogytrails.com/ken/whitley/Will-Book1.html

But they are not there now.

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United States of America / Re: Thomas MEADOR/MEADOWS
« on: Tuesday 09 April 24 17:35 BST (UK)  »
Still searching on this one

2 females (would this include a wife ).

yes, that number would include the wife.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Irish baptism name
« on: Monday 08 April 24 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Sabina

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