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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 08:04 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Dafydd Hywel on Monday 18 March 24 13:26 GMT (UK)
This newspaper article looks interesting as a possible father to Mary Ann Evans.  It was in Herald of Wales, Swansea Newspaper on 16 June & 20 June 1888

Hywel

That’s a great find, he does seem to be a very good contender for the Father

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 08:01 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Dafydd Hywel on Monday 18 March 24 12:32 GMT (UK)
Quote from: roycymru on Sunday 17 March 24 20:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Hywel

Do you have the details from the marriage of Mary Ann Evans to Gwilym John Evans in 1907. I would be interesting to know what her address at marriage is and whether any details are entered for her father.

Regards

Roy

Roy

Her address on Wedding Certificate in 1907 is Llaethdy, Pontyberem.  Where the father name is its just got a line through it.

Her Birth Certificate shows Mary Ann, Mother Jane Evans, Gwendraeth Row, Llannon.  Again ther is just a line in the father

Hywel

Thanks Hywel, that’s very interesting. I does seem to confirm that she was adopted by the Rees family, who 1901 (at Llaethdy) renamed her to Mary Evans Rees but when she married used her born and 1901 name of Mary Ann Rees.

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Monday 18 March 24 18:50 GMT (UK)  »
Although in Llanarthney rather than Llanddarog this is the best match I can find for Jane Evans and Brother Thomas in 1841. They are of around the right age and where people were in 1841 was not always an indication of where they were born

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Pontyberem Pubs
« on: Monday 18 March 24 18:36 GMT (UK)  »
The below is from “The History of Pontyberem” written in 1856 by Stephen Evans of Cilcarw Farm (1799-1873). If I remember correctly the original article was in Welsh and entered into an Eisteddfod competition. It mention pubs in the area at the time and “the 2 chained ladies of the Fancy”!


“On wet Sundays, time was spent talking of spirits and ghosts namely the "Milgi" of
Caenewydd, the solider of Caedrain, the headless man of Heol y Felin, the two chained ladies
of the Fancy and the "white lady" of Marchoglwyn - amongst many others. We are thankful
that such things no longer interest our youth - now much more sober than hitherto.
The village, at present consists of 58 houses, the cleanliness of which reflects credit of the
female sex. The inhabitants number about 275, the majority of whom had excellent and
moral lives. The majority of the workers are miners, employed by Messrs. Watneys at
Coalbrook. The Watneys are to be praised for their efforts on behalf of the area.
A post office was set up in 1855 in Jacob Davies house. There was a need for such as, for
years. The nearest post office was either at Carmarthen or Llanelli.
There are at present 5 taverns in the village.
The Plough - Mrs Margaret Williams
The Pelican- Mr. John Davies
The Star- Andrew Adams
The Bridgend Inn- W. Lover - this is the old chapel sold by the Independants.
The New Inn- Mr. Thomas Wiliams.
There are 3 shops. These are owned by Thomas Trehearne, Joseph B.Hopkins and David
Davies.”

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Monday 18 March 24 09:09 GMT (UK)  »
On reviewing Jane is probably Janet, so not them

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Monday 18 March 24 09:05 GMT (UK)  »
Finding Mary (1820), sister Jane (1823) and potential brother Thomas (1829) in 1841 with a father John could help resolve things but I have not found anything obvious but maybe others can? Finding who was at Llwynfiod(?) in 1841 might also help, but not an easy task.

The nearest I have come up with is attached. In Llanddarog in 1841, Father is John a shoemaker and has daughters Mary and Jane (though their ages are off) and no mention of a son Thomas


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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Monday 18 March 24 08:54 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 18 March 24 08:25 GMT (UK)
Quote from: roycymru on Monday 18 March 24 07:04 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 16 March 24 22:21 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage for John Thomas and Mary Evans?

Q1 1860   Carmarthen    Vol 11a p749   
Evans    David          
Evans    Mary        
Lewis    Elizabeth        
Thomas    John   

The marriage is actually in 1861, in Ancestry parish records on 05 Mar 1861, Llannon. John Thomas, full age, widower, labourer of Row, Llannon to Mary Evans, full age, widow of Row, Llannon. Fathers John Thomas and John Evans respectively bot deceased, no profession given

That looks right - not sure why I didn't spot it when I was searching before

Quote from: roycymru on Monday 18 March 24 07:41 GMT (UK)
I am not sure if the proposed first Marriage of Mary Evans to George Evans is correct? There is a marriage in 17 Feb 1846 in Llanddarog of George Evans, full age, bachelor, collier of Mount Pleasant to Mary Evans, full age, Spinster of Llwynfiod(?). Fathers Thomas Evans, Schoolmaster and John Evans Shoemaker respectively. Mary Evans father as a Shoemaker rather than a labourer//Farmee is unexpected. The 1851 census entry for this pairing also has Mary’s birthplace as Llanarthney while it is Llanddarog in all other censuses. I would welcome thoughts on this

That is interesting. I was working backwards from Joseph Evans, Mary's son on 1861, b c1847 in Llannon. The only one I could find was with the George and Mary pairing (and her having a son called George b 1853 made this potential father look appealing).

Following George jnr forward, he marries in 1872. His address Gwendraeth Row. States his father is George

Thanks for the feedback. I don’t think the marriage can be discounted entirely. I can’t find a GRO entry for son Joseph but this does seem to be the entry for son George

EVANS, GEORGE       mmn EVANS 
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 453

There is another possible marriage of a George Evans to a Mary Evans in “Carmarthen” in 1848. Jun Qtr, Carmarthen 26 841, but because there are multiple entries with the same reference number this George could equally have married an Anne Daniel, Maria Howells or an Elizabeth Philipps.



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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Monday 18 March 24 07:41 GMT (UK)  »
I am not sure if the proposed first Marriage of Mary Evans to George Evans is correct? There is a marriage in 17 Feb 1846 in Llanddarog of George Evans, full age, bachelor, collier of Mount Pleasant to Mary Evans, full age, Spinster of Llwynfiod(?). Fathers Thomas Evans, Schoolmaster and John Evans Shoemaker respectively. Mary Evans father as a Shoemaker rather than a labourer//Farmee is unexpected. The 1851 census entry for this pairing also has Mary’s birthplace as Llanarthney while it is Llanddarog in all other censuses. I would welcome thoughts on this

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans
« on: Monday 18 March 24 07:04 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 16 March 24 22:21 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage for John Thomas and Mary Evans?

Q1 1860   Carmarthen    Vol 11a p749   
Evans    David          
Evans    Mary        
Lewis    Elizabeth        
Thomas    John   

The marriage is actually in 1861, in Ancestry parish records on 05 Mar 1861, Llannon. John Thomas, full age, widower, labourer of Row, Llannon to Mary Evans, full age, widow of Row, Llannon. Fathers John Thomas and John Evans respectively bot deceased, no profession given

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