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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Sunday 11 February 24 01:42 GMT (UK)  »
I so appreciate everyone's wonderful help!
 Thank you for your kindness ladyhawk not only for your sticking with this along with the others who have helped amazingly so far, but also in your kindness in obtaining certificates for me to help sort out this family.. which they certainly have.
   

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Saturday 10 February 24 20:06 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry, correct- my mistake, Anna Lomas was the person who paid for the cemetery plot for Ellen Barfoot in 1898. Ellen Barfoot 'daughter of late F.G. Barfoot

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Saturday 10 February 24 18:25 GMT (UK)  »
Amazing detective work! Talk about complicated- bit of a messy branch of the family.
Thank you Ladyhawk, bbart and Maddy for your dedication here. It's amazing just where you look to locate all this information - seems like my options are morel limited.

It looks to me like Frederick George Barfoot Sr and Fanny didn't marry, but why use Smith. Even back then and although possibly more of an embarrassment than now, people lived together not married and used their proper names. On the other hand Fanny if not married could have used BEND on the certificates, church entries, so maybe they were married, just not located that marriage?
I will digest this new information.
   So that I'm clear, who was Anna Lomas' parents- the Anna who paid for the plot at the Stairfoot cemetery in 1895....

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Saturday 10 February 24 02:55 GMT (UK)  »
Very nice- we are making good headway. Thanks to all.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Saturday 10 February 24 02:15 GMT (UK)  »
bbart I wish I could pay you for the two birth entries you found! So good of you, if so let me know how. Thank you!

Goodness, I have to try and keep with all of this so please clarify if needed.
    So Ellen Smith born 1884 is not from Frederick George Barfoot? He didn't die until 1895 yet  mother was Fanny BARFOOT nee bend.
 Since I don't have a marriage for Frederick and Fanny, did she have an affair with Smith that produces Ellen??
You all have it more in place than me ha ha. Complicated for sure.

Does anyone think that the marriage of Lilly Barfoot and Harold Sharples still could be 'our' Lilly?
It looks like an easy mistake was made regarding Lilly's father being written as Frederick BARWELL, instead of BARFOOT, an easy mistake. The vocation Engine driver may fit as others in the Barfoot family i.e. Frederick George the son, who married Elizabeth Langley was also an engine driver.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Saturday 10 February 24 00:41 GMT (UK)  »
bbart- what a great find! Who would have thought. Thank you. And yes Maddys simplified version of events really helped, so many thanks for doing that.
 And here I was all these years thinking I had all of Frederick and Fanny's children!

So Lilly and all the family on the 1901 are LOMAS but on 1911 census (George deceased) the family is BARFOOT!
If this is Fanny, where is Emma?
There is an opportunity on ancestry to open and view Lilly's marriage certificate in Manchester (Bolton) in 1919 to Harold Sharples (for her fathers name) but since I only have basic Ancestry I am 'not allowed' to view it without an extra subscription.

The 1911 census has the same family with Emma, a widow and now BARFOOT along with all the family as Barfoot.
He birth year in 1911 1856 but what's odd is that on the 1901 census she and George have 5 children and on the 1911 census it states she has just 3 children and none deceased. I guess it's a possibility that her older two Louisa and Edward were not counted since they were grown and were not living in the home. That must be it.
               So if this is Fanny since Lilly her daughter is living with her- where is Emma, likewize if this is Emma, we still are missing Fanny.
 
bbart thank you- this is an important find.

 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Friday 09 February 24 19:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you. Fanny would be 63 then, still alive possibly somewhere.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Friday 09 February 24 18:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi bbart, the Emma Robinson obituary is informative and telling. Thank you for locating that. When was the obituary from - do we have a date please?

So no Fanny appeared, maybe issues with family, lived too far away, or deceased...could be a host of reasons.
      Thank you.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The extensive BARFOOT family
« on: Friday 09 February 24 04:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi maddys57.
I'm now a bit mixed up.
 When you mentioned being interested in the marriage of George Lomas and Emma Barfoot, (which I found the index to in 1896 in Barnsley) I'm not seeing an Emma, maiden name Barfoot in my tree- where does she fit in? Are we talking about Emma BEND, Fanny's sister?
 Sorry.
 bbart who offered great help believes that possibly Emma BEND didn't marry John Robinson. 
I need to work on this part more since i added her to my tree as the wife of John Robinson.
Thank you for your valuable help...all who have helped so far.

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