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Cheshire / Re: Middlewich: Searching for John William Robinson, RAF
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 09:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kassi,

Levi is such an unusual Christian name that I'd say this is almost certainly the same family. Someone born in 1899 or thereabouts would also be of an age to have a son who was 19 in 1944.

John Robinson, the son, has no grave, as the plane disappeared and probably went down in the sea off Brest. St Michael's sounds like an Anglican church unfortunately. The church the Robinson family seems to have been involved with was the Queen Street Congregational church--perhaps you can tell me if it is still around. Levi Robinson was the Sunday School Superintendant in the late 40s/early 50s.

Thanks for your help and prompt reply.

Natalie

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World War Two / Bomber Command lookup request for Nanny Jan
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 08:46 BST (UK)  »
Nanny Jan,

Thank you for kindly offering to look up RAF missions in your father's book. Could I beg you to see if there is anything about my late Uncle John Prior's final mission to lay mines in the harbour at Brest. He flew in Stirling LK383 OJ-A (149 Squadron) out of Methwold, leaving at 9.01pm on Saturday 6th August (he was listed as killed on 7th August). I believe there were 12 planes on the mission. His was the only one lost. I am told that 48 mines were laid in Brest harbour that night--it was a big submarine base, and the RAF had attacked it the previous night with Tallboy bombs.

There may not be any more information, but worth a try. Uncle John flew on four previous missions, so if we have any luck, I might ask you to look those up too.

Thank you so much for your offer,

Natalie

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Cheshire / Middlewich: Searching for John William Robinson, RAF
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 07:49 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the loss of Stirling Bomber, LK383 of 149 Squadron, Methwold, which was lost without trace on a mission to Brest in France on the night of 6/7 August 1944. My uncle, John Adolphe Prior was the navigator. The reason I am writing to this thread is that I am trying to trace the other crew members. One of them was a man called John William Robinson, aged 19, described as being the son of Levi and Martha Ann Robinson of Middlewich. I think the family may have been involved with the Congregational Church there. His service number was 2205557 and he is commemmorated with the rest of the crew on the Runnymede Memorial.

Can anyone at the UK end give me more information about John or his family, and especially, suggest if there might be any living relatives? A website is being set up about this plane, initially in French, but I am considering an English one. This was the last Stirling bomber to be lost on a bombing operation during World War II, as the plane was in the process of being phased out.

You can see the website here. If you can read French, it does provide quite a lot of additional information:
http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/Pertes%20Bretagne/Finistere/7%20aout%201944/7_aout_44.htm

Also, a picture is attached, which I think may be of the crew. My uncle is the very tall fellow on the far left. John Robinson may possibly be the very young man on the right.

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Gloucestershire / Stroud: Searching for John Edward Ashfield Cuthbert, RAF
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 07:44 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the loss of Stirling Bomber, LK383 of 149 Squadron, Methwold, which was lost without trace on a mission to Brest in France on the night of 6/7 August 1944. My uncle, John Adolphe Prior was the navigator. The reason I am writing to this thread is that I am trying to trace the other crew members. One of them was a man called John Edward Ashfield Cuthbert, aged 23, described as being the husband of J.M. Cuthbert, and son of Edward and M. Cuthbert, of Stroud. His service number is 1315283 and he is commemorated with the rest of the crew on the Runnymede Memorial.

Can anyone at the UK end give me more information about John Cuthbert or his family, and especially, suggest if there might be any living relatives? A website is being set up about this plane, initially in French, but I am considering an English one. This was the last Stirling bomber to be lost on a bombing operation during World War II, as the plane was in the process of being phased out.

You can see the website here. If you can read French, it does provide quite a lot of additional information:
http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/Pertes%20Bretagne/Finistere/7%20aout%201944/7_aout_44.htm

Also, a picture is attached, which I think may be of the crew. My uncle is the very tall fellow on the far left. I am not sure if John Cuthbert is one of the others but he may well be.


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Derbyshire / Derby: Searching for Douglas Alan Moore Adams, RAF
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 07:37 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the loss of Stirling Bomber, LK383 of 149 Squadron, Methwold, which was lost without trace on a mission to Brest in France on the night of 6/7 August 1944. My uncle, John Adolphe Prior was the navigator. The reason I am writing to this thread is that I am trying to trace the other crew members. The pilot of the plane was a man called Douglas Alan Moore Adams, aged 30, described as being the husband of Maud Elizabeth Adams of Derby. His service number is 173518 and he is commemorated with the rest of the crew on the Runnymede Memorial.

Can anyone at the UK end give me more information about Doug or his family, and especially, suggest if there might be any living relatives? A website is being set up about this plane, initially in French, but I am considering an English one. This was the last Stirling bomber to be lost on a bombing operation during World War II, as the plane was in the process of being phased out.

I've attached a photo. My uncle is the tall man at the far left. I am not sure if Doug Adams is one of the others, but suspect he may be.

You can see the website here. If you can read French, it does provide quite a lot of additional information:
http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/Pertes%20Bretagne/Finistere/7%20aout%201944/7_aout_44.htm


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Kent / Tunbridge Wells: Seeking Leslie Harry Mercer, RAF
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 05:23 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the loss of Stirling Bomber, LK383 of 149 Squadron, Methwold, which was lost without trace on a mission to Brest in France on the night of 6/7 August 1944. My uncle, John Adolphe Prior was the navigator. The reason I am writing to this thread is that I am trying to trace the other crew members. One of them was a man called Leslie Harry Mercer, aged 38, described as being the husband of D.M. Mercer of Tunbridge Wells. His service number is 1897326 and he is commemmorated with the rest of the crew on the Runnymede Memorial.

Can anyone at the UK end give me more information about Leslie or his family, and especially, suggest if there might be any living relatives? A website is being set up about Leslie Mercer's plane, initially in French, but I am considering an English one. This was the last Stirling bomber to be lost on a bombing operation during World War II, as the plane was in the process of being phased out.

You can see the website here. If you can read French, it does provide quite a lot of additional information:
http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/Pertes%20Bretagne/Finistere/7%20aout%201944/7_aout_44.htm

Also, a picture is attached, which I think may be of the crew. My uncle is the very tall fellow on the far left. I suspect Leslie Mercer may be the older looking man second from the right.

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World War Two / Re: Air Force Lookups - if you need help
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 04:05 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the tip, Annie : I do know the Lost Bombers website and have found it very useful.

I really wish I had found this thread yesterday, before I posted off the request for my uncle's service record. I've just read kyt's advice to ask for a photocopy, which of course, never occurred to me. I just assumed that was what I would get. I suppose I am now going to get a piece of paper with next to nothing typed on it, which is infuriating, considering with the bank draft it cost me A$85. I suppose it is totally pointless to write again after the fact, as they must get many dozens of applications every day.

If I may make a suggestion to anyone else who is researching RAF planes lost in Brittany, the people at the specialist French internet site, ABSA, have been absolutely fabulous to deal with. They have given me so much help, we now know more about the loss of my uncle's plane than anyone in the family for sixty-four years. They've even set up a special page for my uncle's plane, the address of which I quoted in my previous post. The site address for their forum is http://absa39-45.forumpro.fr/forum.htm and I heartily recommend it. It probably helps if you can read and post in French, but I do note that some people write in other languages.

I do hope some of you can help me with my uncle's elusive crew. By the way, here is a picture, which may help. My uncle is the very tall fellow on the far left. I don't know the names of the other men in the photo but suspect they may be some of the other crew members of the lost plane. Sorry for the poor quality of the snap.



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World War Two / Re: Air Force Lookups - if you need help
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 02:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am also researching my late uncle, John Adolphe Prior, who died on 7th August 1944 in a gardening mission to Brest. His plane, LK383 OJ-A, was the last Stirling lost on a bombing mission during the war. We believe it was taken out by flak over Brest. The plane was lost without trace, believed crashed into the sea.

I am in the process of trying to trace the other crew members, who were

DOUGLAS ALAN MOORE ADAMS (PILOT) of Derby, husband of Maud Elizabeth Adams
JOHN PRIOR (NAVIGATOR) of Wolverhampton (my uncle)
EARL STANLEY CARY of Vancouver (from the RCAF, believed to be another pilot flying second dickey), son of Ernest Albert and Ida Catherine Cary
JOHN EDWARD ASHFIELD CUTHBERT of Stroud, husband of J.M. Cuthbert and son of Edward and M. Cuthbert
TERRY KILCOYNE of Blaxton, Yorkshire, son of John and Rowena Kilcoyne
JOHN WILLIAM ROBINSON of Middlewich, Cheshire, son of Levi and Martha Ann Robinson
LESLIE HARRY MERCER of Tunbridge Wells, husband of D.M. Mercer

The first thing I want to do is to sort out the other members of the crew by role, ie, who was the rear gunner, etc. I also want to find out a little bit about the men, and if there are relatives out there, it would be wonderful to contact them.

A web page is being set up for this plane. Unfortunately it is in French, but there is still a lot of information if you can read that language. Hopefully an English web page may follow if I can get together enough information.

http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/Pertes%20Bretagne/Finistere/7%20aout%201944/7_aout_44.htm




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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: 16 Acre Plantation, Blaxton
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 01:56 BST (UK)  »
Pam:

Thank you very much for your kind message about the Kilcoyne family.

I have taken your advice and written to you privately.


Thanks so much

Natalie

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