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In view of the difficulty in finding James’s origins I can’t see that anyone who is claiming noble ancestry beyond that is doing anything other than indulging in fantasy genealogy . If I find anything out I will post it on here.

I know some of the borders towns, Kelso in particular, but I don’t recall being in Selkirk. If we’re travelling south these days it tends to be down through Perth and Glasgow. Must take a detour through Selkirk some time. We lived In Edinburgh for several years but, even then,  never had reason to be in Selkirk. Might be useful to go and brush the lichen off a few gravestones and see if that turns up any rellies!

OK, I'll get a look at that link but the quote was very helpful in pinning down the Selkirk origins.

I suspect that the regal connections will turn out to be nothing other than ill researched fantasy but there is just enough substance to make it worth investigating for a while.

Jannet Bell(1752-1785) is shown in other trees as being a wife of John Stewart but is unverified. The only link I can see is this one from Ancestry to a wedding in Findo Gask in Perthshire. Interesting from the point of view that it places John further north than when he married Patience Brown and closer to the heartland of the Balquhidder Stewarts. A lot more work to do before I change my kilt to Bruce tartan

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=60144&h=3123827&tid=106325442&pid=402014712181&hid=1043155680533&usePUB=true&_phsrc=ymB38&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true

We have a common descent. His first wife was, I believe, Jannet Bell who died in 1785.

Follow this link to ScotlandsPeople and it will tell you his and his twin brother James's parentage. You'll need some page credits with SP to view:

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/images/OPR778_000_0020_0154Z

If the link doesn't work I can try and copy/paste an image for you. I would love to know in more detail your evidence for the move to England. I made a bit of a guess about his Selkirk origins but would like to consolidate that.

There is a suggestion that this Stewart line links back in to the royal Stewart line and ultimately back to Robert 1st of Scotland, The Bruce himself. The link may be back through the Stewarts of Balqhidder.

It's all a bit tenuous at the moment but within the last day or so I've had some encouraging DNA evidence which supports the idea that I have Robert II, King of Scotland as a common ancestor with someone else. The same would be true of you if you have John in your line of ascent.

Interesting you mentioned William(1800) because I am descended from him.

Well done. I should know by now to search alternative spellings. In later census records the surname is Stewart or even Steward. I should have thought that Stuart might make the connection.

Just need to find out about James, his father, now.

Thanks for the help

Very similar story to my father's. I would guess that a general letter/email to the Town Council of Fermo might get the required response. Unfortunately I don't have any direct contact myself.

Delighted you found this thread useful. I knew nothing at the outset about the location of the camp but, with the help of others, I have been able to pin down the exact location,

Good luck