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Thank you for the information above. As I'm not in the UK, I'm not familiar with some of the web sites to search or the various areas/parishes, etc and it helps to be pointed in the right direction.

Hi,
   I am actually researching the McGie family from Glasgow (and other areas) of which my grandmother Robina McGie was a descendant. I have information on the above William McGie but I  have very little information on his wife Isabella.....I have done lots of searching, especially in FamilySearch and ScotlandsPeople (SP) but keep hitting a brick wall when it comes to any Gilmour information.

I do have the following information:

1. William McGie (McGhie, McGee, Magee, McGhee, etc) – Was a tile/brick maker with his own business. His parents were Walter McGie (B. Abt 1752 - ?) and Jean Arnot (B. 1768 - 1868). William also had siblings – James, Jean and Walter.
B. 01/01/1797 in New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
Bpt. 15/01/1797
D. 25/07/1868 in Knockinshannock, Drymen, Stirling. Death record shows aged 76, both parents deceased AND he is widower of Isabella Gilmour.
M. to Isabella Gilmour – 27/02/1824 in Cambuslang, Glasgow

2. Isabella Gilmour – (Isabel, Isbel, Isobel, Gilmor) Not much information on her at all. Parents/family ??
   B. assuming about 1806 in Erskine/Renfrew – haven’t found birth in SP.
   D. 9/7/1852 at Offrance Tile works, Buchlyvie, Drymen, Stirling. I couldn’t find any reference to her death in SP but I came across a Death notice in a newspaper –

http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/1852jul.htm
Birth, Marriage & Death notices from Scottish newspapers:
July 1852
16th July 1852
DEATHS [02]
At Offerance Tile Works Buchlivie, on the 9th instant, Isabella Gilmour, aged 45 years, wife of Mr William McGie.

   The 1841 Census of Erskine – William aged 40 (Head, Tile maker); Isabella aged 30 with 5 children. Also a James Gilmour aged 20, a Tile maker is mentioned – could this be a sibling/cousin?

   The 1851 Census of Buchlyvie (Drymen) – William aged 57 (Head, b. Dunbarton, Kilpatrick, Tile manufacturer employing 8 labourers); Isabella, wife, aged 45 (born Renfrew) with 7 children.

   The 1861 Census of Drymen – William aged 61 (Head, b. Dunbarton, Kilpatrick, Widower, Tile Manufacturer, with Daughter Mary aged 11, Scholar and a housekeeper. No mention of wife, Isabella.

   Their 12 Children –
1.   Margaret    b. Nov 1824 in Barony/Glasgow City - d. In infancy
2.   Jean   b. Jan 1827 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. In infancy
3.   Walter   b. Sep 1828 in Paisley Middle/Renfrew- d. Sep 1888 Glasgow, M. to Elizabeth Campbell in 1848
4.   Arthur   b. Sep 1830 in Glasgow/Glasgow City – d. In Canada, M. to Janet Grindley in 1861 (Canada)
5.   Margaret   b. Sep 1832 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. Apr 1909 in Glasgow, M. to Dr William MacKeith in 1854
6.   Jean   b. Feb 1835 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. 1905 in Drymen, Stirling, M. to James Strang in 1855
7.   William   b. Abt 1836-37 in Glasgow? Can’t find any info. - d. Dec 1917 in Glasgow, M. to Janet Stewart – this is my McGie link
8.   Ann      b. Feb 839 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. In infancy
9.   Isabella   b. Nov 1841 in Erskine/Renfrew – d. Mar 1857 in Royal Infirmary, Glasgow
10.   Janet   b. Dec 1843 in Erskine/Renfrew – d. In infancy
11.   James   b. Dec 1845 in Erskine/Renfrew – d. Unknown
12.   Mary   b. Abt 1950  Can’t find any info. - d. May 1867 in Knockinshannock, Drymen, Stirling

The births of Jean (1827), Margaret (1832), Jean (1835) and Ann (1839) mention an Arthur Gilmour as witness – possible sibling/relative??

The births of Margaret (1832) and Jean 1835) mention a James McGie as witness (possibly William’s brother).

Margaret – 1854 marriage from SP (to William MacKeith) mentions only father William. Looks like mothers names were not recorded in Drymen. 

Isabella – 1857 death from SP – mentions mother Isabella, but she is not mentioned as deceased. ?? Newspaper mentions her death in 1852

Mary – 1867 death from SP – mentions mother Isabella, as deceased.

I also found a ‘memoir’ associated with Margaret (McGie) MacKeith about her life - http://mackeith.net/MacKeithFamily/Margaret_MacKeith.pdf

I would really like to fill in the gaps on Isabella Gilmour and her family in Drymen – especially about their life, the Tileworks  and her death (cause of, etc) in Drymen. Would there be any information in Church records, on burial headstones, etc.

Are there any McGie's still in the area?

Thanking you in advance,

sandir

Hi anne_p,
Thanks so much for all the information on the Gilmour family - much appreciated. I will have a closer look at the possible connections. If you happen to come across any further Gilmour family information please let me know.

Also, do you know what type of areas  Cambuslang and Eaglesham were in the 1820's - 1850's ...... working class, industrial, etc? I'm not familiar with the various Parishes, etc.

I also found the following on the Gilmour family  - one family at least -

Googled – Gilmour family from Renfrew –
https://thegilmours.wordpress.com/history-of-our-family-names/gilmour/

http://homepages.luc.edu/~pgilmou/familyhistory.pdf
Gilmour family story from Renfrew – doesn’t mention an Isabella,  I wonder if they are related???

Regards,
           sandir

Hi,
   I am actually researching the McGie family from Glasgow (and other areas) of which my grandmother Robina McGie was a descendant. I have information on the above William McGie but I  have very little information on his wife Isabella.....I have done lots of searching, especially in FamilySearch and ScotlandsPeople (SP) but keep hitting a brick wall when it comes to any Gilmour information.

I do have the following information:

1. William McGie (McGhie, McGee, Magee, McGhee, etc) – Was a tile/brick maker with his own business. His parents were Walter McGie (B. Abt 1752 - ?) and Jean Arnot (B. 1768 - 1868). William also had siblings – James, Jean and Walter.
B. 01/01/1797 in New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
Bpt. 15/01/1797
D. 25/07/1868 in Knockinshannock, Drymen, Stirling. Death record shows aged 76, both parents deceased AND he is widower of Isabella Gilmour.
M. to Isabella Gilmour – date unknown, but assuming about 1823. Did they ever get married??

2. Isabella Gilmour – (Isabel, Isbel, Isobel, Gilmor) Not much information on her at all. Parents/family
   B. assuming about 1806 in Erskine/Renfrew – haven’t found birth in SP.
   D. 9/7/1852 at Offrance Tile works, Buchlyvie, Drymen, Stirling. This was found when I came across a Death notice in a newspaper –

http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/1852jul.htm
Birth, Marriage & Death notices from Scottish newspapers:
July 1852
16th July 1852
DEATHS [02]
At Offerance Tile Works Buchlivie, on the 9th instant, Isabella Gilmour, aged 45 years, wife of Mr William McGie.

   The 1841 Census of Erskine – William aged 40 (Head, Tile maker); Isabella aged 30 with 5 children. Also a James Gilmour aged 20, a Tile maker is mentioned – could this be a sibling/cousin?

   The 1851 Census of Buchlyvie (Drymen) – William aged 57 (Head, b. Dunbarton, Kilpatrick, Tile manufacturer employing 8 labourers); Isabella, wife, aged 45 (born Renfrew) with 7 children.

   The 1861 Census of Drymen – William aged 61 (Head, b. Dunbarton, Kilpatrick, Widower, Tile Manufacturer, with Daughter Mary aged 11, Scholar and a housekeeper.

   Their 12 Children –
1.   Margaret    b. Nov 1824 in Barony/Glasgow City - d. In infancy
2.   Jean   b. Jan 1827 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. In infancy
3.   Walter   b. Sep 1828 in Paisley Middle/Renfrew- d. Sep 1888 Glasgow, M. to Elizabeth Campbell in 1848
4.   Arthur   b. Sep 1830 in Glasgow/Glasgow City – d. In Canada, M. to Janet Grindley in 1861 (Canada)
5.   Margaret   b. Sep 1832 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. Apr 1909 in Glasgow, M. to Dr William MacKeith in 1854
6.   Jean   b. Feb 1835 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. 1905 in Drymen, Stirling, M. to James Strang in 1855
7.   William   b. Abt 1836-37 in Glasgow? Can’t find any info. - d. Dec 1917 in Glasgow, M. to Janet Stewart – this is my McGie link
8.   Ann      b. Feb 839 in Glasgow/Glasgow City - d. In infancy
9.   Isabella   b. Nov 1841 in Erskine/Renfrew – d. Mar 1857 in Royal Infirmary, Glasgow
10.   Janet   b. Dec 1843 in Erskine/Renfrew – d. In infancy
11.   James   b. Dec 1845 in Erskine/Renfrew – d. Unknown
12.   Mary   b. Abt 1950  Can’t find any info. - d. May 1867 in Knockinshannock, Drymen, Stirling

The births of Jean (1827), Margaret (1832), Jean (1835) and Ann (1839) mention an Arthur Gilmour as witness.

The births of Margaret (1832) and Jean 1835) mention a James McGie as witness (possibly William’s brother).

Margaret – 1854 marriage from SP (to William MacKeith) mentions only father William. Looks like mothers names were not recorded in Drymen. 

Isabella – 1857 death from SP – mentions mother Isabella, but she is not deceased.

Mary – 1867 death from SP – mentions mother Isabella, as deceased.

I also found a ‘memoir’ associated with Margaret (McGie) MacKeith about her life - http://mackeith.net/MacKeithFamily/Margaret_MacKeith.pdf

I would really like to fill in the gaps on this family, especially on Isabella Gilmour and her family.

Thanking you in advance,

sandir03

Hi,
  I have just found out from my late father’s  (born in Glasgow on 2nd Jan 1924) RAF records that he attended Shawlands Secondary School  between 1936 – 1941. He then went on to work as a trainee surveyor for a J. Spear between 1941 – 1942 before joining the RAF. He spent his working life around planes in the commercial field – as a navigator then retrained as a pilot flying B707's and B747's until he retired 1981 in Sydney, Australia.

While he was in high school he joined the Air Defence Cadet Corps (ADCC), 32 Fighter Squadron from 1938. It later became Air Training Corps (ATC).

I would love to find out about any of these ‘organisations' - Shawlands Secondary School , ADCC/ATC, etc, when he attended in the 1930's - 40's.

Regards,
   Sandi