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Travelling People / Rab Howell Gypsy Footballer
« on: Tuesday 21 July 09 16:26 BST (UK)  »
As a gypsy and a sports fanatic, I would be interested to know if anyone knows anything about the family history of Rab Howell.  Howell is reputed to be the only Romany Gypsy to play for England.  In my experience, Howell is not a Gypsy name and I am intrigued to know what his Romany connections were.

He played for Liverpool and Sheffield.  Lots of Rabs/ Rabbis among my Mom's Boswells and I wondered if he might be connected to them :)

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Travelling People / Re: Reuben/ Rodney Smith
« on: Tuesday 21 July 09 16:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies, aa1 Webb and Lucky Jo.

I think that I need to get the Terrence Lee books. I mean to get serious about Gypsy genealogy as a whole and it would be a good start.   :)

I think that there is a fair chance that there is a connection with the worcester Smiths. There are so many Reubens in the family and I know that they stopped all over the west of England.

Thanks to RG1, I know that My Grt Grt Grandad Guilroy also had brothers called Josiah and Reuben as well has half brothers, this particular James Smith having had more than one woman.

Thanks again for your help,   Vince. :)

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Travelling People / Re: Reuben/ Rodney Smith
« on: Wednesday 27 May 09 22:27 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the reply aa1 Webb,

At least i know the answer is not in the Terrence lee books.  I wonder if it will ever be solved because some very well informed people have had a crack at it for me.  I would be very grateful for any imfo that anyone has on the Gloucester Smiths, that along with the family anecdotal evidence just might spring a surprise. 

Thanks again.

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Travelling People / Reuben/ Rodney Smith
« on: Saturday 23 May 09 18:41 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

I am a Gypsy Smith and my Grt Grandfather Guilroy, son of James Smith and Sarah Lock appears on the census in the late 1800's in Leonard Stanley Glos.

I know ( thanks to RG1) that Guilroy had a brother Gypsy Reuben Smith a preacher.  This is a great family enigma.  No one knows if this man is related to Rodney Smith.  Over generations tales of the men have become interintwined according to the illiterate,oral tradition of my family.  My great uncle Luke Smith told of meeting one of the preachers on the frontline.  When he introduced himself,the preacher had him sent home because he was too young to fight.

My Grandad thought that the two men were one and the same but this now seems unlikely.  I know that Rodney's Grandad was a James Smith and that hehad a multitude of children from more than one woman. 

Please could anyone shed any light at all on this 50 year old family mystery.  My Dad is in his late seventies and i would love to find the answers for him as well as myself. :)

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Travelling People / Re: Naomi Smith c1821 Cenementi Smith c1816
« on: Wednesday 15 April 09 22:57 BST (UK)  »
All I know is that he was married to an Annie Davis/Davies .  Three of his daughters and one of his sons married the children of mt other Grt Grt Grandad Guilroy Smith.  He was the Son of James Smith and Sarah Lock.  ( All thanks to Romany Genes).
sorry I don't have dates, hope you can help. ???

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Travelling People / Re: Naomi Smith c1821 Cenementi Smith c1816
« on: Wednesday 15 April 09 22:46 BST (UK)  »
Please excuse me i'm very inexperienced in this. Thanks to Romany genes I know that my Grt Grt Grandfather was Nathaniel Smith. The timescale seems to fit.  He had a daughter Senementi and others called Elizabeth, (Betsy) Lementina, Martha, Nenny,as well as sons Wisdom and Jabez. Is the 10yr old Nathaniel here possibly my ancestor?

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