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Hi Eccles, I indeed know number 4 I lived there until Iwas fourteen. My grandmother lived next door at number 3, the cottages were named Lindsay Place. The cottages were described as but and ben, that is they comprised of a front room and a rear room. They were joined together but Ido recall my father constructing a doorwaythrough the middle wall, this enabled my grandmother access without her having to go outside. From the Loaning we had to climb three wide steps to the front doors .The sandstone walls were very thick as I can remember sitting on the window sill. Today I believe they are used as holiday homes. I will be very pleased to tell you more if you are interested, particularly about my memories of the Loaning, regards stoop.

Thanks Gadget I had a feeling I would be hearing from you , Iam just hoping for a breakthrough on this one regards stoop.

I hope Ihave not posted this twice as I was distracted . Has anyone knowledge of links between kerrs of Mouswald and Dalton, my line were living in Mouswald, Torthorwald, Terregles and Cleughbrae. regards stoop.

Thanks sillgen will do . Rachel was named after Rachel, Roberts sister back in Mouswald near Dumfries. thanks for your help stoop.

Hi Andrea thats the problem Iam only guessing that they lived in Cumberland because it is close to the Scottish border. I did post on this subject before and got a suggestion that they lived in Crosscanonby but I did not know how to progress the thread. It was mentioned that his wife was named Ann and a reference to Rachel and 1813. Can this possibly help?. thanking you stoop.