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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hornblow
« on: Wednesday 28 May 14 10:16 BST (UK)  »
I've just looked at the link you found. I was sent a copy of his Orbituary by the Braintree Baptist Church back in about 2009  so  I have seen that but thanks anyway .

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hornblow
« on: Wednesday 28 May 14 10:00 BST (UK)  »
Why not.  If you look at my website page on him I know almost nothing about his origins. Having evidently told them he was born in Halstead in 1743 ...I was unable to find him there between 1740 & 1744. I did look fora Hornblow family there and found nothingbut it was  some time ago .
I had quite forgotten that I found an record and an image of his marriage in 1775 in St Bodolf, I ve just this morning added it to the webpage. One of the witnesses has a most unusual name, Morell Young, I might see if I can find him....
I will check out the link you sent.
Most interesting and Thanks

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hornblow
« on: Tuesday 27 May 14 15:05 BST (UK)  »
I believe Sarah's second marriage was bigamous.
Evidence both positive & negative, in otherword what is found and what is absent.
1. I was not able to find a death for George Moore in the time frame 1814 - 1816  in Colchester. despite an extensive, and expensive,  search of the records.
2. The entry in the  Deptford register showing that  marriage  finds that Sarah declares herself 'spinster of the parish of Deptford BUT uses her married name of Moore (Have image )
3. When daughter Sarah Georgiana Moore married in 1838 in Stepney, some 22 years after her mother went to South Africa , her father George Moore is recorded as present- occupation corn merchant. Her brother John Cotton Moore also appears to have been married in Stepney but he lived in Messing in Essex, suggesting that father George might be in Stepney.
4. I have found no record of grandmother Elizabeth Hornblow taking or adopting  Sarah Georgiana and her brother John who remained in England,yet her eldest child , Mary Catherine Moore ,age 8 went with her mother to South Africa and is  found  on the passenger list of HMS Ocean in the Howard Party.
Q    Why did she leave 2 of her children behind at all, if their father was dead ? And why didn’t she take all the children after 1821 ? I believe George was still alive, and may have gone to live in the Stepney, refusing to let Sarah have the children, as was his legal right in those days.  When Sarah and her new husband went to South Africa in 1820  with their new family they took her eldest daughter Mary Catherine Moore, who sadly she died  a few weeks after John Cadle was drowned in 1824
Her brother  John Cotton Moore, I found a tailor of the right age by the Name of John Moore with a wife mary Ann and numerous children in the local 1839 church census's, living  in East Street Colchester and later 1841 census in nearby Mistley, Occupation Tailor then in later census's an Agent for East India Company and finally Sail Maker. John is mentioned in his mother Will of 1843. It is still not possible to confirm his whereabouts after she  left him age-5 or 6  in 1816 .

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hornblow
« on: Tuesday 27 May 14 15:04 BST (UK)  »
since 2011  and 2014 I discovered this about Sarah Hornblow
Born but not baptised c1789, Essex, England,
 m. (1) 17 Jun 1810, in St Martins in the Fields, George MOORE,
m. (2) 29 Jan 1816, in St Pauls, Deptford, Bucks, England, John Henry CADLE, b. c1795, occupation Tallow Chandler, d. 11 Oct 1823, near Salem, Cape, RSA,
m (3) 7 Dec 1824, in Grahamstown, Cape, RSA, James THOMAS,
m. (4) 7 Dec 1828, in Port Elizabeth, Cape, RSA, Charles GURNEY.
Sarah died 3 Nov 1843, Port Elizabeth, Cape, RSA.

John Hornblow (a Baptist, and later a Particular baptist  Minister, hence no newborn baptism.)  Mother, Elizabeth
 Boyd's  Marriages has  JOHN  HORNBLOW  1775  Place  LONDON  St George Botolph Lane  London spouse    Elizabeth    no family name given
source Society of Genealogists
 I have only been able to find what I believe to be a few of their children.
 A remark made by a Dr Perrot when they arrived in Braintree to take up his post as ordianed Baptist Minister leads me to think there were more.
" I note the largeness of your family and the smallness of your purse.." the Dr offered Reverend Hornblow a guinea a week which John Hornblow refused choosing to live on the stipend of £40 a year. Most of the children that I have found were born after they arrived in Braintree in 1779.
 A Martha Hornblow witnessed  Sarahs Marriage to George Moore in 1810, she may have been an older child or she may have been Martha Hornblow wife of Ebenezer Hornblow who both witnessed Sarah’s second marriage
Who Ebenezer was I have not established , he could have been John Hornblow’s brother but have been unable to confirm this so far.
WILLIAM Hornblow, son of John and Elizabeth. Born  Sep 18  1782
Baptised age 12  on 3 Dec 1802 at  St. Michael the Archangel, Braintree.
ANN Hornblow born 1783 in Bocking.
Married 1804 in Bocking to Stephen Brown. (Braintree and Bocking are one place now)
LIDIA Hornblow,  born circa 1794 -  I was informed that Lidia had an illegitimate child but have not seen proof of this.  Married at St. Michael, Braintree a minor & a spinster
1814 Mar 7 to Edward Hayward of Saffron Walden, Bachelor
By Licence, with consent of Parents Both signed the register.
Witnessed by, Hannah Hornblow and others. . ( ref Boyd's Essex)
Son Edward Hayward born 1815 in Saffron Waldon
HANNA Hornblow d. of John and Elizabeth Hornblow :  Braintree   Father:  Dissenting Minister Born.  Feb 6, 1795;  Baptised  age 21 in 1816 Mar 20
( 3 months after her father's 1st stroke at Christmas 1815)
Married to Lloyd Henry Standish on 23 Aug 1816 St Lukes Old Street Finsbury
Son Lloyd Henry Penafiel Standish born 1926
Sarah      Born: Abt 1789, Essex England 
    Marriage (1): MOORE, George on 17 Jun 1810 in St.Martins-In-The-Fields (London?) seen in LDS fiche
 3 children
    Marriage (2): CADLE, John Henry on 29 Jan 1816 in St.Pauls, Deptford, Kent, England
6 children 3 in England and 3 in South Africa one born after John Cadles death
    Marriage (3): THOMAS, James on 7 Dec 1824 2 children
    Marriage (4): GURNEY, Charles on 7 Dec 1828 .
    Died: 3 Nov 1843, Port Elizabeth Eastern Cape South Africa aged about 54 1

Sarah married George MOORE on 17 Jun 1810 in St.Martins-In-The-Fields (London?).1

Sarah next married John Henry CADLE on 29 Jan 1816 in St.Pauls, Deptford, Kent, England.1 (John Henry CADLE was born about 1795 1 and died on 11 Oct 1823 near Salem Cape South Africa 1.)

Sarah next married James THOMAS on 7 Dec 1824. (James THOMAS was born in Grahamstown Cathedral, Grahamstown, Cape Colony, Southern Africa  and died in 1827 .)They were married by Rev. T. Ireland on 7 Dec 1874
Sarah next married Charles GURNEY on 7 Dec 1828.1in Port Elizabeth

She died  3rd November 1843 in Port Elizabeth SA Children:
her surviving children were
Charles Gurney Born in Deal Kentin  1812 d. 24 Dec 1867 age 54y 4m 1d Humansdorp (q.v.)
Charles 1812 d. 24 Dec 1867 age 54y 4m 1d Humansdorp (q.v.)
Sarah Georgiana Moore, married to Augustus Pomeroy in Stepney living in Liverpool England .
John Cotton Moore possibly married to Mary Anne
Ann Thomas married. McCarthy
James Thomas, a minor (blind).

for all I have found try my website
 https://sites.google.com/site/pomeroytrees/home
or email me at wooltucker(at) gmail.com

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On Line Parish Clerk - 1685 St. Mary Magdalene Launceston, Cornwall.  William POMEROY  married  Agnes  PELLOW widow
? anyone know of a connection?

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Devon / Re: Devon House of Mercy
« on: Monday 15 April 13 09:41 BST (UK)  »
 :)

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Devon / Re: Devon House of Mercy
« on: Sunday 07 April 13 11:59 BST (UK)  »
No Sorry  but if you go to your local library you may be able to order it. try the library catalogue- on line OR the British Library may have a copy which can also be  ordered from your local library - BL integrated Catalogue..also on line.

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Devon / Re: Devon House of Mercy
« on: Saturday 06 April 13 17:36 BST (UK)  »
I think if you read through the various messages you should find your answer . all i have is this
Bovey Tracey 1870

The DEVON HOUSE OF MERCY, for reclaiming fallen women, was established here in 1861, and was formally opened in a temporary residence in 1863; the foundation stone of the present building was laid by the Earl of Devon in 1865; it contains accommodation for 72 inmates, and is supported by voluntary contributions; the members of the Clewsisterhood have the management of it.

Booklet
Devon House of Mercy for Reception of Fallen Women - The Bishop of Exeter, visitor; the Hon. And Rev. C.L. Courtenay, warden: Rev. F. Ensor, hon. Secretary
1902 entry
Devon House of Mercy, The Bishop of Exeter, visitor ; the Archdeacon of Barnstaple, warden ; Rev. Charles- John Penrice B.A. sub-warden ; Rev. Prebendary Harry- Tudor M.A. hon. sec. ; Henry T. Ferguson esq. & E. Harding esq.


2009   Investigations into Abuse by RC Church institutions run by priests and nuns -includes Sisters of Mercy,

British Listed Buildings - no images
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-84482-devon-house-flats-bovey-tracey-devon

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/BoveyTracey/BoveyTraceyKelly1902.html

Culture Grid Resource
Title: The Devon House of Mercy, Bovey Tracey, 1863-1940

Creators:    Wallace, Janice;
Description:   Text covering Devon. Devon House of Mercy. Maternity services. , Northcote. History. 1836-1940 produced 2001
Format:   text/html
License:   http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ -
Publisher:   Devonshire Association
Rights holder:   Devon County Council
Subject:    Northcote; Maternity services; History;
Temporal:   start=1836; end=1940;
Type:    Text;

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Somerset / Birkin
« on: Friday 10 August 12 08:06 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have an Elizabeth Birkin- at some point she wrote her name in a Bible printed in 1595 found in West Teignmouth last year at St James Church- fairly sure the bible is nothing to do with the church BUT no idea where it came from-
Does anyone have an Elizabeth Birkin possible a servant , maybe a ladies maid or companion to a lady in a Big House or a wealthy family- she could write in a fair hand so some education but no clue as to date. The style of the handwriting suggests 17th C - in other words its easily readable -
I found an Elizabeth Birkin baptised in Bristol  in around 1607. Could it link to Martyn's the Exeter merchant family who owned Lindridge House a nearby manor house of considerable size?
The Mystery of the 'Birkin' Bible found in St James church 2011 in West Teignmouth.!!

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