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Europe / Re: HILLMANN and VON THUN
« on: Friday 18 March 05 09:17 GMT (UK)  »
Casalguidi - That is brilliant ! Fills in a lot of the gaps. Many thanks for the info. If I can be of any help in return - not sure how, though I have access to some census data for the Matlock and Wirksworth areas of Derbyshire, and live quite near the Derbyshire records office.

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Europe / Re: HILLMANN and VON THUN
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Casalguidi - yes, Heinrich von Thun is in the 1881 census records as a 'boarder' in the household at age 57, so it makes sense. I think he's Gerd Hillmann's father-in-law.
Did you have an occupation for him ? He was a sugar refiner in the 1860s.

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Europe / Re: HILLMANN and VON THUN
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 18:14 GMT (UK)  »
Bob - thanks for the encouragement! So far doing all we can for free before having to start paying for copies of certificates, census data, etc, but at some point will need to go to GRO and buy the records. Good idea re licensing documents !  By the way, 'we' means my daughter and myself. It was my daughter who actually started this hare running a few years ago when she decided to compile a family tree for her two sons. So the recorded family now goes down to my grandsons and back to (some of) my great-grandparents...

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: 1861 census lookup in BRIGHTON for HENLEY
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 18:09 GMT (UK)  »
Paula -

Many thanks for that contribution. If true it could help enormously. I shall check out these links. Certainly tailor's apprentice sounds right, because both he and his son Albert (my grandfather) were tailors.

cheers

Steve H.

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Europe / Re: HILLMANN and VON THUN
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
Bob -

Many thanks for the instant reply, and the info. Yes, odd about the 1901 census - but I think maybe misspellings or transcription errors.

I have now also found on ancestry.co.uk a record from the 1881 census - Gird Hillman and Gerdke Hillman, roughly the right ages, with a boarder, Henrich von Thune, living at 81 New Road, Hamlet, London. That is more than just coincidence, I think. Misspelling, bad writing, or errors in transcription to the online database - but certainly looks good to me. By then he was a licensed victualler, and they had two servants, so coming up in the world from sugar refining in the 1860s.

This consolidates the UK information a bit - but I really need to get to grips with finding the Hannover ancestors now !

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Europe / HILLMANN and VON THUN
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
I'm looking for any information on Gerd Hillmann and Gesche von Thun.

Gerd Herman Heinrich Hillmann c1837-1884, sugar refiner. Lived at 35 Gloucester St, London in the 1860s (from http://www.mawer.clara.net/sugarhhiy.html). We do not know when he came to the UK from Germany, and have no information about his family.

He married Gesche Von Thun but we have no information about her except a 1908 death certificate that records her age as 64 - so born around 1844. There was a Heinrich von Thun, sugar refiner from Hannover, lived in London, born c1833 who might have been her brother. However, no further information about either.

Any information about any of these from the 1861 census or other sources would be very welcome.

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Sussex Lookup Requests / 1861 census lookup in BRIGHTON for HENLEY
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 14:49 GMT (UK)  »
My great-grandfather was a GEORGE HENLEY, who was born about 1855, and lived in Brighton (1881 census RG11/1089/114 p.12, lived at 15 Queens Gardens, Brighton, St Peter district). He married Mary Ann Button in 1874 (Marriage certificate - June 1874 - Brighton 2b 317). However, we can find no trace of his birth certificate, either in Brighton or anywhere else.

If anyone can check the 1861 census for him (and for parents and siblings) it would be extremely helpful !

Thanks in advance - Stephen Henley


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