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Warwickshire / Re: Luke O'Grady
« on: Tuesday 17 December 13 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
A bit more digging on AncestryLibrary.com:

This arrival in New York of a Luke O'Grady on 10 Aug 1888:

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"New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957"

Line: 3
Name: Luke Ogrady
Arrival Date: 10 Aug 1888
Birth Date: 1853
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: England
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Germanic
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Number: 1091

Seems to match the naturalised Luke Grady:

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"New York, Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989"

Name: Luke Grady
Naturalization Date: 20 Jul 1894
Former Nationality: English
Arrival Date: 10 Aug 1888
Title and Location of Court: Common Pleas Court, New York County
Volume: 768
Record Number: 86

But is not a good match for Luke Grady of Wolverhampton (wrong age, wrong occupation).

Paul

569
Warwickshire / Re: Luke O'Grady
« on: Monday 16 December 13 14:55 GMT (UK)  »
It's all very intriguing. This is the first real mystery I've encountered in my research (I've not been going that long; I'm sure I'll find other similar disappearances).

If nothing else, it makes for a good semi-fictional account... older woman, recently widowed, seduces her young lodger, alone in the world, who then high-tails it to New York after the baby is born... the trashy historical romance novel practically writes itself ;-)

It seems quite likely that Luke O'Grady and Luke Grady of Wolverhampton were one and the same and that he either emigrated or went incognito after 1888.

Thanks for all your help and ideas!

570
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571
Warwickshire / Re: Luke O'Grady
« on: Sunday 15 December 13 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, that bothered me too. If that's not him, where did he disappear to!?!

572
Warwickshire / Re: Luke O'Grady
« on: Sunday 15 December 13 14:07 GMT (UK)  »
What was Luke's occupation on the birth cert?
"Glass embosser".

573
Warwickshire / Re: Luke O'Grady
« on: Saturday 14 December 13 22:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Jim and many thanks for your reply!

If she was married or passing herself off as married it would state her maiden name, so does it ?

Yes, she's recorded on the birth cert as "Emily O'Grady formerly Farley". Luke O'Grady is named as the informant, of 2 Back 135 Brearley Street Birmingham (which is also the place of birth).

What I can see so far is that Emily married Edward Corr 1872 16 years prior to Frank's birth & Frank is living with his Grandmother in 1891 & in 1911 he's married & calling himself Corr.
Is this correct.

All correct. Frank O'Grady-now-Corr and Lily née Bowden, married by the time of 1911 census & with their first 2 children, ended up having at least 9 more, including my grandfather.

A possible scenario is that after Edward's death Emily took in Luke O'Grady as a lodger, with 3 young children & no income this is quite feasible.

Sounds very plausible, and would explain the age difference between Emily and Wolverhampton Luke. It sounds even *more* likely when you notice that Emily Corr later married Charles Tillbrook, who was recorded as her "boarder" on the 1901 census. She obviously had a habit of getting friendly with her lodgers :-)

His mother was Jane Spooner.

Thank you - Jane's surname was a detail I didn't have.

I suspect I'll never be able to prove that Luke Grady of Wolverhampton = "my" Luke O'Grady. (The oddest detail is that that family seems to have always been recorded as Grady, *never* O'Grady, consistently over many years - so why would he give his own name as O'Grady when registering the birth?) I'd also love to get some clue about what happened to him in New York (if that was him) after 1894.

Still, it all hangs together and makes for a good story!

Cheers,

Paul

574
One Name Studies: H to M / Re: Harland Surname Research
« on: Saturday 14 December 13 21:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Gobbo - I've dropped you a line. I have the newspaper article of William Harland's death (which you may already have). The newspaper must have confused the Royal Hotel in Redcar with one of the same name down the road in Loftus.

Cheers,

Paul

575
One Name Studies: H to M / Re: Harland Surname Research
« on: Saturday 14 December 13 07:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Harland

, one of these engine drivers, became a publican some time between 1871 and 1881 and seems to have controlled several public houses in the North Riding before his death, in Redcar, in 1892.


Hello - only 6 years late to this post - I am descended from this William Harland and his wife Margaret LONGRIDGE. William died after falling down the stairs of his own (final) pub, the Royal Hotel in Loftus, Yorks.

Regards, Paul

576
Warwickshire / Luke O'Grady
« on: Friday 13 December 13 12:34 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to trace my ancestor Luke O'GRADY. I have done a little bit of work but I'm fairly new to family history research - can anyone suggest any pointers?


My great-grandfather Frank O'Grady (later Frank CORR) b. 1888, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England.

His birth certificate - and later his marriage certificate - both give his father as Luke O'Grady, occupation "glass embosser (journeyman)".

Frank O'Grady's mother was Emily Corr née FARLEY (and later TILBROOK/TILLBROOK) b. 1854 - she is down on his birth certificate as Emily O'Grady, but I suspect this *might* have been a polite fiction for the registrar's benefit - I certainly can't find any marriage between Emily and any O'Grady.

My great-grandfather kept the name O'Grady until adulthood before changing it to Corr. I can't find any definite information about Luke O'Grady before or after my great-grandfather's birth.



Some potential leads all with "Grady" rather than "O'Grady" - nothing to confirm that any of these are the same person:



Luke Grady b. 1867, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England (GRO 6b 414).

1871 census @ 80 Temple Street, Wolverhampton: Luke Grady, aged 3, son of William GRADEY, aged 40, occupation "shoemaker", b. Ireland.

1881 census @ 80 Temple Street, Wolverhampton: Luke Grady, aged 13, occupation "scholar", son of William O. Grady (poss. O'Grady!), aged 50, occupation: "cordwainer", b. Armagh, Ireland.

I can't find any matching marriage or death entries for this Luke Grady.

William Grady, occupation: "bootmaker" of Temple Street mentioned in a court case involving his daughter in 1880 - "STAFFORDSHIRE ASSIZES - YESTERDAY". Birmingham Daily Post (Birmingham, England), Tuesday, July 20, 1880; Issue 6876; Page 5.

William Grady d. 1884, aged 54, Wolverhampton (GRO 6b 325).

U.S. petition for naturalisation document for a Luke Grady occupation "laborer", former nationality English, at New York Common Pleas Court on July 20, 1894. (Arrived in U.S. August 10, 1888. Address in New York: 419 East 22 St, New York City).

Finally there are two UK birth records for other people called Luke Grady which both seem less likely:

1848 in Holbeach, Lincolnshire (GRO 14 397);
1856 in South Shields, Co. Durham (GRO 10a 438).

...

And that's me exhausted! Does anyone have any leads or can anyone suggest where I go next: particularly on where I might look for evidence whether the Luke GRADY above is my 2-greats-grandfather or not?

Many thanks,

Paul

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