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The Common Room / Re: Ever wondered what accent your ancestors had?
« on: Tuesday 28 October 14 18:25 GMT (UK)  »
This fascinates me too. I was intrigued to be told that my Northern Irish great grandfather's first language was Irish Gaelic. I have a family called Brandish, from Salford, but who I've traced back to near a village called Brundish in Suffolk. Did a Manchester clergyman or enumerator hear a Suffolk "u" as a northern "a"? Seems feasible - when, with my Manchester accent,  I worked in London in the 1970s, I soon learned that I had to spell out names with an "a" in them, or they would often be written down as "u" by the southerner on the other end of  the phone! And my Gloucestershire great x 4 grandfather went to Manchester from Berkeley in Gloucestershire. His birthplace on one of the censuses is given as "Birkley", so obviously he pronounced it as spelled.

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The Common Room / Re: Ever wondered what accent your ancestors had?
« on: Tuesday 28 October 14 18:17 GMT (UK)  »
Not just accents - I'd love to know which of my ancestors around the Shropshire/Wales borderlands were Welsh speakers and which were English speakers.

Mike

The Welsh census indicates which language people spoke - a friend I was doing some research for was fascinated to find out that her grandmother was a Welsh speaker.

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I'm looking for the marriage of a Josephine M Buxton. This isn't the one I'm after - if the certificate is of use to someone else, you're welcome to it.

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The Common Room / Re: Why did they change their surname from Sawyer to Ellerton?
« on: Thursday 02 October 14 19:12 BST (UK)  »
The friend I'm researching this family for has now spoken to an older relative, who says that the Sawyers moved and changed their name because they couldn't pay the rent!
He also gave her lots of other information and contact details for another elderly relative who she doesn't know. Just shows how important it is to talk to older family members, as they can have so much information that will otherwise die with them.

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Clare / Re: MELLODY all spellings
« on: Sunday 28 September 14 08:45 BST (UK)  »
Michael Mellody/Mellidy/Malady  was born in Co Clare abt 1808 - 1811 .  His family was Roman Catholic.   The given name of Thomas comes down in this family.  I have found mention of it in Co Clare in the parish of Tomgraney (Cappacannoun).    Michael was in St John, New Brunswick before  his marriage  there on 26 Nov 1840 to  Mary Ann Corkery/Corcorran at St Malachys Roman Catholic church.   

There were so few families in Co Clare with the surname of Mellody that I hope there is someone that has knowledge of Michael's family.   I  am going to assume that he was baptized in a Roman Catholic parish.

Thanks for any leads.    Bettye

I have some Melodys in my family. I'm away from home at the moment but will check when I get back.

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The Common Room / Re: Why did they change their surname from Sawyer to Ellerton?
« on: Wednesday 17 September 14 19:12 BST (UK)  »
...I think one of Fred's grandsons may still be alive, so have urged my friend to find out if he knows anything about all this.

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The Common Room / Re: Why did they change their surname from Sawyer to Ellerton?
« on: Wednesday 17 September 14 19:00 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I saw the post. Thats why I asked!

No reason why Arthur couldnt have had a brother (doing the same job) called Henry who also married a Sarah from Drax!
You may be right, Arthur may be Henry - but without Fred's birth cert then it is speculative.
Thanks Liz.
True, but there's only one Sarah from Drax who's the right age, and there's no brother Henry on any of the censuses - I've checked Fred's parents on all relevant censuses. I was wary of that sort of situation because in my own tree (this is a friend's family) I had 2 brothers marrying 2 sisters called Eliza and Elizabeth! I may get Fred's birth certificate to be sure, as of course you're right, it's speculation till I do, but it all fits so well that I'm pretty sure this is correct.

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The Common Room / Re: Why did they change their surname from Sawyer to Ellerton?
« on: Wednesday 17 September 14 18:48 BST (UK)  »
Liz  -I haven't got Fred's birth certificate, but am pretty sure that his mother was Sarah Shirbon, b Drax, Yorkshire, 1858 - see my latest posts above.

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The Common Room / Re: Why did they change their surname from Sawyer to Ellerton?
« on: Wednesday 17 September 14 18:19 BST (UK)  »
Another twist in the story of this strange family: I've been struggling to find the marriage of Frederick's parents, Arthur and Sarah. Sarah came from Drax, so as it's a small place I searched the census for Sarahs of the right age and  consequently found the marriage of Sarah Shirbon and HENRY Sawyer! I'm almost certain this is Arthur, as the date is right (a few months before Fred's birth), and his profession and his father's name and profession match the census. There's no indication anywhere else that he had the name Henry (I haven't ordered his birth certificate, but I'm pretty sure I've found it on the indexes, and he's listed as Arthur). This family seem quite phobic about using their given names!

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