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  Ok it's all a bit of a longshot but the wife and son of the Lucas family were born in Lpool, so they have not been in Poplar long, they have 2 unrelated visitors with them in 61. So it's pos the family were still there in 1865 when Kate had Peter. Am thinking maybe she knew them or they befriended her.
The man is a joiner and someone tought Peter his trade, Kate called her 2nd son William which was the name of their son, she is back in Lpool then. So am going to look for the Lucas family and see if they returned to Lpool also.  Could be clutching at straws. Xx

Thank you, didn't expect to find her there in 61,  would think she would have probably have arrived just prior to conception or during her pregnancy. Have no idea how long she would have stayed but I don't think she had roots there as she was in Liverpool soon after as had her second son here.
I only know Poplar from what I saw on tv ( call the midwives) but have been googling, whenever I have pondered I get the feeling that she had ties/ support in Liverpool. Would not surprise me if she went to Poplar with Peter Snr or to join him when pregnant. Then settled in Liverpool ,seamens families are alone too much and sometimes the men don't come back, so you need to have roots and be able to find work.  Think they were both transition zones but Liverpool was both Catholic and Irish.

Hi I have the birth certificate for Peter Augustus Deas
He was b) 12 Nov 1865 at 1 Commercial St. Bow. Poplar
Parent are Peter Deas ( sailor) and Kate Deas nee Moloney
Kate makes her mark.
Hope this helps and thank you again for all of your help.
I can take a photo of this with my phone but only know how to email it not upload it .

Sorry just double checked it's St Clements for the baptisms so will check those and check for Elizabeth's burial there. The 2nd marriage was St Peters

Spekeland grove is good. These families all stayed very close for generations unless they went to sea, to war, or emigrated.  So women and children tended to stay put.