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Many of those mentioned in this thread including Robert Roberts and his wife Rebecca; and Evan Griffiths and his family are laid to rest in Maentwrog, at least seven headstones found in the Gwynedd FHS memorial inscription book have been connected to the certificates and evidence I have traced.
Gareth.

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Hi Sue
Many thanks for persisting, it is appreciated.
I went to Henryd cemetery again yesterday and found the two adjacent graves also contain Gwladys' sisters. Once I'd opened the 1939 register and played a couple of hunches in my research and with the help of Jane's last Will things came together on her other siblings.

Margaret Elizabeth Davies nee Jones, wife of Thomas Davies. Single grave.
Mary Williams nee Jones and her husband Iorwerth.
Another good find.  That makes 4 sisters with Jane Jones their mother.
Thanks for spotting that error, also it reads George Herman not George Harold. Do you know what PMG lineman refers to?
Gareth.

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Thank you Sue,
It's certainly coming together now.

I've now found a will for Gwladys' mother Jane Jones who died 1966 so I've ordered that yesterday. I thought it odd that Jane wasn't buried with her husband John however Conway cemetery normally permit a max. of 3 per grave and I have to thus assume the father is buried with the two infants; but it's nice that Jane is buried with 2 of her daughters. Henryd cemetery is in a lovely small valley and the google earth site shows the cemetery right next to the road.

I don't know anything about Ivor's family at all so whatever comes is a great bonus, thank you.

I also apologise for hijacking the original Wyatt enquiry so maybe an enumerator may want to separate my Jones/Turner look ups?
Gareth.

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Hi Sue
Unfortunately I can't see any of the info that you mention.
I'm in the UK assuming you are in Australia perhaps?
Gareth.

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Sue
From what I'm seeing at the moment I think Ivor's parents family might well have stayed in Australia. The one name that may turn up something may be Mabel Jane Turner? They may be in Brisbane from the 1925 passenger list.

I've found Ivor's father's family, living at (and other Turner's) near 95 Princes Street, Barry in the uk 1901 census - his father (Albert)'s brother William Henry Turner and their father John Turner. Barnstaple and South Moulton, Devon are birthplaces of some.

There are too many John David Jones born Conway for me to home in on any one individual and the deaths don't help much either I fear. I can only assume John David to be born after 1911 although there are two circa 1917 with mothers maiden name Jones that may be worth a call to the registrars office. I can contact the crem. to see if he's passed through there and cross ref. some MI's in due course. From the will, John David Jones is in the Maes Derw maisonettes, Llandudno junction when Gwladys died 1973 so he died after then.
Regards Gareth.

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Hi Sue
In conclusion, Belgian garden cemetery kindly sent me a photo of Ivor's grave which was really good of them.  I have found his wife Gwladys buried in Henryd, Conwy, Wales as anticipated; with her mother and sister so gained further dates there too.  I have been there and tidied it.  I've had fun tracing this but she actually lived it. :)

Also now had copy of her will ("a widow without issue") that indicates a brother I didn't know of (never ends)!  Had a copy of Ivor's death certificate (poor chap died enroute to Townsville hospital) but still waiting on the uk certificates at present...
Regards. Gareth.

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Hi Sue
I hope it's not those tin sheds! Maybe that where Ivor did his French polishing perhaps? Good of them to put the house no. on their bin, lol.
I've ordered all b,m,d certs for Gwladys and copy of the will today and contacted Mochdre crematorium. I've even spoken to the undertakers and they are trying to find where they took her (4 cars!) from their records. I have also emailed the Belgian Gardens Cemetery so you have opened several doors for me.

Gwladys being Methodist, could be laid to rest in Henryd or the Tabernacle cemetery near Gyffin, Conway. She doesn't seem to be in St.Agnes they tell me.

Even after 40 yrs of family history and tracing so many branches one can always find something and someone to help so it's much appreciated.
Gareth.

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Wow Sue,
That date you give for Gwladys is the same birth date shown in the 1939 U.K. Register, 26 Oct. 1910 and the address you give for 25 Chapel street, Conway also tallies with Gwladys' 1958 passenger list (so does the birth date again) so I think you are absolutely spot on, she must have come home to Conway! Absolutely fantastic research, many thanks Sue!

I can't see any of Albert John Turner's children on the cemetery list but then again it's a huge list and I don't know if his children married in due course or surnames if they did.

I have to assume Gwladys could well be in the newer part of St.Agnes cemetery where her sister Alice Peace Evans rests, and I only found that grave last week so I will contact Mochdre crematorium who hold the records. There is only one Steven Turner in the old part of the cemetery and no other details on the headstone, only the name, not even a date.

What a life she had! I've just got to get onto that will, how on earth did you find that? I can order her death cert to see who registered it. It just shows me how families lose contact with each other, I should have met her as a child as I lived in Llandudno junction 1957-1963 and Llandudno 1963-1974 and I cannot recall if I ever did, just another Jones you see.

Once again a huge thank you for all your help.
Kind regards Gareth in kidsgrove.

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Sparrett
I've checked the 1925 passenger list and Ivor's parents tally as Albert j. Turner and his wife Elizabeth. With Albert being a carpenter also leads to a link with Ivor being a French polisher so that's a plus too. Ivor must have already lived in Australia so one now questions how he came to know Gwladys in Conway? The question begs!

Albert and his children Mabel J, Ivor A, Credwen M., and Iris A. were going to Brisbane. What great name to search - Credwen Turner. Could it Ceridwen as the age 7 is in the female column on the 1925 passenger list?
Their address was given in U.K. as Pen y Bryn cottage, primrose hill, Lydney, Glos.

In the U.K. 1911 census they are living at 36 Princes street, Barry, Glamorgan, as parents with Mabel Jane and their 1909 marriage on free bmd may have been transcribed as Elizabeth Jane Howells, Bridgend district 11a/1423. Albert John delivered milk so to be a carpenter he certainly raised his employment status.
Gareth.

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