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Canada / Re: looking for someone please
« on: Tuesday 28 September 21 15:23 BST (UK)  »
I'm not sure whether Cranstone realizes there have been more than two replies in the last few days!

There are two messages from Sandra on this page (page 4), but go back to pages 2 and 3 and you will see a whole lot more information. :)

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Cornwall / Re: a Cornwall/Devon geography question
« on: Tuesday 27 July 21 18:56 BST (UK)  »
Well, I can only apologise for neglecting to answer your post, G Mix. Pandemic ... my partner and I have still not left the house since Feb 28 of last year, except for essential medical and veterinary reasons (and of course our double doses), so you'd think that would have left lots of time for family historying. It didn't happen.

In Feb of this year, right when this post was added to my old thread, I suddenly got very busy with work. I've always worked at a home office, so COVID actually had far less effect on us than on most others. The worst effect for us was on my mum, living 200 miles from me, 90 years old and isolated in her apartment in a senior cits' building. She had been in cancer treatment for over two years, one of the first to get a wonderful new immunotherapy and one of the lucky ones on whom it worked miracles, making her a poster child for others to have access to it -- so she had gone from being bedridden in agony and needing one of us kids there 24/7 (I did it in 10-day shifts; my sister living nearby tended to all her shopping and hospital apointments, from then through the pandemic) to doing laps around the block with her walker. Ten weeks after the date of the post I'm replying to, 8 weeks after eagerly having her first shot, she died suddenly and alone late at night, not of cancer or COVID but apparently of heart failure. I will forever hate every single person everywhere who selfishly defied pandemic rules (and now stupidly and evilly refuses vaccination) and contributed to my mother not seeing two of her four children for over a year, and to the depression she didn't survive. Rant ends.

Thank you G Mix. I know I did read your post and take it on board -- because I was recently closing a slew of old open tabs and ran across the ones where I'd hunted for Emma Buie. :)

The thing is that the missing daughter in that family of mine -- the eldest child, born in the 1840s, according to the two censuses she appears in (51 and 61) -- was named Emma. So imagine my ears perking up.

Emma Buie, age 16 (b. c1856 Clerkenwell), seems to have been a servant in a Monro household in London in 1871 (so place of birth may or may not have been correct). That seems likely to be the one, but I see no other records of her. The surname Buie seems to be Scottish. My Emma would have been nearly twice as old in 1871.

I can also add, all these years later, that some DNA work was done and that the family in question -- whose "real" surname is not the surname my mum inherited -- matches closely with the YDNA of a family that lived for generations 10 miles from where my family was in the 1850s with a totally different surname. But not closely enough to find a paper crossroad, probably, even if I had any clue who my most recent Mr. "real surname" -- who married c1820, grandfather of the children batch baptised in the 1850s, who is evident in any other records only from the fact that his widow remarried in the 1830s -- was and where he came from... although I do know that his wife (whose DNA doesn't count in the male surname line) had the same surname as the YDNA match name with my family -- !! So many webs, so tangled.

I stay on the trails, but I'm kind of stuck where I was a few years ago, except for ever-narrowing bits and pieces. Like discovering the grave of my great-grandfather's sister (one of the batch baptisms in Cornwall in the 1850s) in Canada, of all places, where her husband abandoned it when he departed back to England later that year with their kids (one of whom settled in S. Africa, whose granddaughters, whom I had already found online, had never heard of their great-grandmother buried in Canada and knew only more genealogical tall tales) and his new wife, and then left the kids behind and left for parts even more exotic. One half of a couple dissembling is enough; when both of them and their kids and their siblings just lie about everything, in different ways, this is what you get.

It was interesting to read this thread again. We are in the midst of a paroxysm of statue toppling and name-changing here in Ontario (Messrs. Ryerson and Dundas, for example, having been associated with the "Indian" residential schools where crimes against humanity were committed), but I haven't seen anything yet calling for Col. Simcoe's deposing. He was a mixed bag, of course, as aren't we all.

I think I'll go hunting for my Emma again. Or make lunch.

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Canada / Re: Trying to trace my cousin R Hoare
« on: Tuesday 27 July 21 17:19 BST (UK)  »
Actually, I would strongly suggest removing the info about the executor, since that is a living person. The basic info was already available in the obituary I directed Dave to.

(Dave has replied to me privately, and was not aware until now of his cousin's death.)

Also, I should maybe clarify that when I said "It was a search for Albert Amos Hoare that popped it up", I meant that after reading Dave's post here, I did a Google search for Albert Amos Hoare and found the obituary for Rick. I assume that in 2010, the obituary was not available online.

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Canada / Re: Trying to trace my cousin R Hoare
« on: Tuesday 27 July 21 05:07 BST (UK)  »
Sandra, I think that's the executor's business address; she has since retired. I had already sent Dave her current contact info.

Bentor Boy, perhaps you did not read my post. Dave's cousin had unfortunately died in 2006, and I have provided him with information about family members and contact details for a close individual at the time of his death.

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Canada / Re: Trying to trace my cousin R Hoare
« on: Monday 26 July 21 15:04 BST (UK)  »
(I have just been poking around RootsChat for Hoare (Cornwall/Devon in my case) posts and ran across this one. Since I'm in Canada, I thought I'd give it a go. It was a search for Albert Amos Hoare that popped it up -- fortunately, since these items are usually not available online after 15 years. I know it is not recent, and the query is a decade old, but I am posting it in case Dave is still receiving notifications and has not heard the sad news about his cousin, who died five years before Dave's query here.)

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/vancouversun/obituary.aspx?n=richard-stuart-hoare-rick&pid=18206871

There are 29! remembrance submissions by friends and family that speak volumes about the man, and some might provide info by which the people could be contacted. Richard had no children, but did have extended family, and seems to have been a friend to everyone. :)

(I've sent some more specific info to Dave privately, since I see he's been at Rootschat this year.)

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Hi Sally -- as long as you keep your email address at this site current, you will always get notices of any replies anyone adds. (I'm here because I got a notice of your reply, because I posted some info back in 2013. Time does fly.)

Now you just have to add one more here (say hello!) and you will be able to send and receive private messages (PMs). I imagine Annie will send you a PM as soon as she sees you have added a third reply. Then you can exchange email addresses and you will be off to the races. :)

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Canada / Re: Canadian War bride WW11 passage?
« on: Wednesday 12 May 21 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi S.S.,

The GRO's own published index wasn't available all those years ago. :)

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

BAKER, MELVYN  RICHARD      (dob) 1943 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2009 in WORTHING  (7861B)  Reg 1B010  Entry Number 250

For the exact date, I believe you need the death certificate.



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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Morrison - Hugh + Mary, marriage c1795
« on: Friday 16 April 21 20:54 BST (UK)  »
Hello Cousin! Lovely to hear from you, echoing down all these years. ;)

I too come from Mary Morrison and Robert Corner, via their daughter Mary. Are we getting closer or farther apart?

I did (with some help from someone with access to parish records) sort out who Hugh's wife Mary was, a while back. Mary Burrows, I believe. I haven't really gone further back, other than her probable parents' first names.

Our Ontario premier is about to tell us what further drastic measures are now being imposed because of all the fools who won't comply with the existing ones, so I'm going to dash. If you like, send me a private message with info about your descent from Mary and Robert!

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Devon / Re: a Plymouth geography question (1861 census)
« on: Monday 25 May 20 19:56 BST (UK)  »
Hello louloubelle and thanks for your story and memories! I'm sorry that I had not been checking the email account where I get thread notifications, recently, and just saw this.

It's interesting to read anything about the history of our ancestors' home grounds. Until I posted this question I had not really been aware of how tremendous the devastation Plymouth suffered was, and your grandparents' story is one more of the many personal tragedies it caused.

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