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Take 2, my laptop has a mind of its own.     GEFFERY DORMER, of W Wycombe; married Isabel, daughter and coheir of Thomas Balldington, Lord Manors of Balldington, Thame, Oxon, and Adderbury, Oxon, by Agnes (dau of John Danvers, of Cothorpe, by Alice, daughter and heiress of William Verney, of Byfield), and had:
GEFFERY DORMER, of W Wycombe; Lord Manor of Thame; married 1st Margaret (died 1454), daughter and coheir of John Launcelyn, of Cople, Beds; married 2nd Ursula, daughter and heir of Bartholomew Collingridge and grand-daughter of Ranulf FitzAlan andgreat-grand-daughter of Sir William FitzAlan, KG (died 1 Aug 1400), and had, with other issue, including a younger son (Sir Michael, Sheriff London 1529, Lord Mayor 1541):
this is Burkes Peerage Page 1168 Edition 2003 (?)

Burkes Peerage 2003 Edition Page 1168, also Collins Peerage.refer to Ranulph as descending from William Fitzalan. I do not have the exact Collins Peerage reference at the tip of my fingers, can reasearch it. The History and Antiquities of Buckinghamshire also refers to Ranulph same as above. I have read it myself personally, but due to a computer gliche at the time lost the reference and have been looking for it again every since. There is also a reference in HAB re the tombstone details, which refers to G Dormer and his two wives, children, Ranulph and Julyann his wife and William and Alice. I can be contacted through my family tree on ancestry. Strathbrook.  I personally believe yes he did exist and is the result of an affair which obviously the Fitzalan family  would not have approved of.

  I have just received my Autosomal DNA results, am 100% European. The only ancestry connections I have from Spain are from Royal Blood, so this could be a possible connection through Ranulph Fitzalan of Arundel/l.  May do more DNA tests in the future. I thought that this was a good way to try prove my connection. Time will tell. Cheers Marilyn

Thanks heaps for this information, most grateful, will share with two cousins I have recently found while searching my family line. Cheers M