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I have an ancestor's occupation listed, on his death certificate from the mid 1940s, as works policeman - electrical engineers and then his usual occupation (journeyman joiner) listed in brackets after this.  He was over 60 and, as far as I can tell, had been a joiner all his working life so I'm unsure what the works policeman - electrical engineers part describes or relates to?  Any help would be very appreciated - thank you.

Two sons and two daughters - sorry, I don't know which area of Manchester she lived in.

That's a good idea thanks; I will explore that 

Looking for anyone that might remember/know anything about Elizabeth or have any pics.

Thank you
 

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for all your replies - it is really appreciated .To summarise a response in one post:

Rosie99 and Jaywit - yes, Rosetta had the two children with Arthur Ball during a previous relationship and so Fred became their stepfather.  I found that the children were born in Warrington and Salford in the mid 1910s but spent their early years in Manchester.  Looking at the 1939 register, I can locate both of them for this year (who are, by this time, each married) but it doesn't appear Rosetta was living with either of them, unfortunately. 

Mabel Bagshawe - yes, Fred appears in London by 1939 with the woman he went on to marry a few years later; sadly, we don't know whether Rosetta had died by this time (and he's therefore telling the truth about being a widower) or they had simply separated by 1939 and gone their separate ways.  I found out that Fred had a history of bigamy and had only recently come out of being in Swansea prison for this, before coming up to Manchester and "marrying" Rosetta. So you're right about it being difficult to know whether he's telling the truth or not.

heatherjulie - thanks for this; I did wonder whether she went back to using the surname Ball and had noticed that record for the lady in Farnworth before.  When I started to explore it more, I found it wasn't her because the matching burial record shows a differently (first) named husband who is interred with her, unfortunately.


We're fairly certain she didn't go abroad and so must have died somewhere in this country.  My worry (because it would be impossible to ever find her if this is what had happened) is that she either died under her stage name and the death certificate was made out in that name OR she may possibly have separated from Fred and then met a new partner, thereby adopting - and dying under - his surname.  We've been unable to find a further marriage record for her.