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The Common Room / Re: Where was G Okill's shop?
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 17:29 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks BumbleB,  I've made a note of the address for future reference.  I thought Grace was unlikely to have been a butcher, the only lady I can ever remember working in a butcher's shop was the cashier working in a little corner cubby-hole behind a glass screen, but that was many years ago!

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The Common Room / Re: Where was G Okill's shop?
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 15:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi ShaunJ,
This extra info is very welcome.  I'm not surprised George wasn't in Howard Road in 1911 as the census shows him with his parents and siblings living in Walthamstow, unfortunately the transcript I've seen doesn't state which road!   George's occupation is given as Butcher as is that of his sister Grace - I wonder if there really were lady butchers or did the transcriber confuse two lines of information?

I wonder if George junior really was in Howard Road in 1920 as, according to family legend, he'd vanished by then!  Possibly the family were keeping the shop going or perhaps a new owner had kept the old name -cheaper than having the lettering re-done.

The Okills were my daughter-in-law's father's maternal ancestors and, as he's an only child, with not many family memories to draw on so I'm very grateful for your help, thank you.


 ancestor's

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The Common Room / Re: Where was G Okill's shop?
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 12:35 GMT (UK)  »
That's so helpful ShaunJ. thank you very much. I was hoping that someone might have a relevant trade directory and I'll now dig out all my old maps and have a look at Howard Road and its surroundings.

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The Common Room / Where was G Okill's shop?
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 12:01 GMT (UK)  »
Please can anyone tell me the location of G Okill's butcher's shop.  We believe that G Okill was George born 1889, the son of George b 1855 and Emma nee Downes.  Possibly the business was owned by the older George, censuses show him as having various occupations but none of them was butcher! 

At the 1901 census the family were living in Camberwell and in 1911 they were in Walthamstow. 

George junior is believed to have served in WW1 and, after his discharge, it is thought he went to America but no more was ever heard of him!

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The Common Room / Re: Description "lunatic" and "imbecile" on Census
« on: Sunday 16 May 21 17:20 BST (UK)  »
As a result of a previous inquiry about  child, born 1918, with severe epilepsy, kind Rootschatters told me about the Darenth Asylum.  If you follow this link

http://www.ezitis.myzen.co.uk/darenthpark.html

you'll find quite a lot of information re classification of the various types of mental conditions affecting both children and adults who were living there.

The child in question died 1932 from T.B. which imagine, would have been rife in an institution such as this.

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The Common Room / Re: asylum fishonds bristol and bodmin
« on: Sunday 31 January 21 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
In 1991  I was seeking information on my greatx2 granduncle's wife who was admitted to Bodmin Asylum in 1854 and was advised  that the old records were held at St. Lawrence's Hospital, Bodmin, Cornwall, PL31 2QT.  Bodmin 73281 ext 5660.

I duly wrote to them and received an extremely helpful reply from the Patients Services Officer of the Cornwall and Isles of Scilly Mental Health Unit who had located Mary Oldham's records and had extracted all of the relevant information about her illness and treatment for me.  He even included details about her husband and children, including one from a previous marriage. 

I appreciate that things may have changed considerably in the intervening 30 years but it might be worth your while pursuing this line of inquiry.

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Surrey / Re: Queens Road Cemetery Croydon
« on: Monday 28 December 20 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
For many years I've been seeking information re the burial/cremation of my grandfather.  He was Charles Henry Woodhams who committed suicide 21st January 1939.  He was living in S.E.17 at the time at the time but as there was a strong family connection to Croydon I thought it was worth trying there as well.  I approached the London Borough of Croydon in 1993 when the Assistant Registrar told me that there was no record of Grandad but she was able to give details of burials, in Queen's Road Cemetery Grave no:1969/V8, of other members of the family which I'm listing here in the hope it might save you a bit of research time, Lensmeister.

Josiah Woodhams of 5 Elis Davys almshouses   82 yrs   bur 6th July 1885

Philadelphia Woodhams of 5 Elis Davys Almshouses  82 yrs   bur 22nd June 1893

William Woodhams of Handcroft Road, Croydon   3 yrs   bur 8th September 1867

Francis Woodhams of 12 Handcroft Road, Croydon   3 weeks   bur 16th December 1895

Josiah and Philadelphia were my paternal Greatx2 grandparents



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The Lighter Side / Re: Volunteer Fire Brigade
« on: Sunday 29 November 20 20:20 GMT (UK)  »
During the late evening and night of 5th January 1867 Croydon’s parish church was devastated by fire; the Croydon Advertiser recorded the dramatic event in these words.

"... in the excitement and hurry of getting first to the scene of the fire, everyone had forgotten to call the turncock, and 35 minutes elapsed between the call (to the volunteer fire brigade at the top of Crown Hill) and the first flow of water, the sequel being with the exception of the tower and north and south walls, the entire fabric fell a prey to the flames, and a victim to brigade mismanagement".

I believe reinforcements were called and they arrived on the last train from London!

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The Common Room / Re: Help... what is this?
« on: Friday 06 November 20 20:04 GMT (UK)  »
Matthew Boulton owned the Soho Mint in  Birmingham.  Try putting " Mr Boulton's Trafalgar Medal" into a search engine. 

Time Team excavated the Mint some years ago.

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