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Scotland / Re: Weird marriage OPR (1738) that is something else
« on: Monday 21 February 22 15:50 GMT (UK)  »
Just to end the story of James Neil for anyone that like the details of these things, here are some of those details.

He was married to Janet Muirhead, somewhere, in about 1739. From the session minutes of Falkirk I have the following:

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August 3th 1739
James Neil and Jant. Muirhead reported to be irregularly married are appointed to be cited to this session agt. this day 15 days.

They were summoned twice more and did not show up. Apparently they did do so eventually although there is no entry for them in the minutes to describe what happened. That's unfortunate because the Falkirk session minutes often provide nice biographical details for these things.

In the marriage OPR's for Falkirk is found:

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Nov 28th 1739
William Grindlay and Margt. Hopkins also James Neil and Jant. Muirhead having cleard. their dues their for irregular marriages offered testificates of the same to the Session which were not sustained because informal

His son, my 5th Great grandfather, did pretty much the same thing and was "suitably exhorted and received a Sessional rebuke for their irregular behaviour".

N.B. James Neil born in New Monkland and moved between New Monkland, Slamannan and Falkirk a few times.



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Scotland / Re: Weird marriage OPR (1738) that is something else
« on: Monday 21 February 22 11:09 GMT (UK)  »
Forfarian,

Yes, long s, not an f. Can't believe I missed that. I was so focused on the notion of irregular marriages that I seem to have unconsciously tried to force it to read what I wanted it to read. Oops.

GR2,

Unfortunately there are no accounts for this parish for that year (at least not on SP). They must exist though, at least in some form, since we've just looked at a page from it.  The minutes for 1738 also seem to be missing.

Anyway, I know from other sources that James Neil was eventually irregularly married in 1738/1739. If scandal was found, what happens after? Would that be reason for an irregular marriage?

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Scotland / Weird marriage OPR (1738) that is something else
« on: Sunday 20 February 22 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
While researching a marriage on scotlandspeople I hit on a search result that looked interesting - correct name for the husband, year and place: James Neil, New Monkland, 1738. However, it was indexed as "name not given" for the spouse. I purchased the item and was surprised to see that it was not a page from the marriage registry, but rather what appears to be a page from the session accounts - there is money collected on the sabbath.

Is this actually a record of marriage? Anyone know if the word "Info" is perhaps short for something like "informal"? Perhaps referring to an irregular marriage. All persons on the page paid 1s 10d. Perhaps a fine?

From my research I know that this couple got hauled in front of the session court of an entirely different parish for being irregularly married.


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Inverness / Re: Three Munro sisters from Inverness, born c.1880
« on: Saturday 12 August 17 03:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi.

Yes, "Trane" was from a transcription.

I never had much joy searching for that, so could well be an error.

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Inverness / Re: Three Munro sisters from Inverness, born c.1880
« on: Friday 11 August 17 23:40 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately I don't have that record at present. I learned his date of death (31st December 1927) from his gravestone at Tomnahurich Cemetery, from a photograph taken by my mother.

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Inverness / Three Munro sisters from Inverness, born c.1880
« on: Friday 11 August 17 23:09 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying, without much success, to find out what happened to the three daughters of Alexander Munro (1845–1927) and Mary MacLeod (c.1848–1896).

They were: Isabella (b. 1878), Christina (b.1880) and Mary (b.1881). The birth years are calculated from census, so might not be precise. My grandmother referred to them as the "Belles of Invernes".

The 1891 census records them with the family at Roan Cottage, Muirtown Locks, Inverness. The 1901 census shows Isabella, and younger brother, at home with her father, now a widower, at "Canal Bank Trane Cottage", Inverness. After this, I've lost all trace.

All I have really is their names and this rather nice photograph:


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