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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Tuesday 13 August 19 13:52 BST (UK)  »
If you check out Marjorie Emma George and her mum Adeline on my public tree (Cranes and Simmonds Family Tree) you'll see I've already done most of this work.

Addie's Mum was Emma Hodge, and she goes back to a family in Faversham UK (where we lived from 1981-2002!). I have also her Muckleston line from her father Samuel.
She married Cuthbert Alvin (twice mis-spelt) Fisher twice - first in Bombay with the wrong family name while she was still technically married to Harold George; secondly with her correct name once the Decree Absolute had gone through. But she seems to have abandoned Cuthbert pretty early, possibly because of her concurrent long affair with Garnet Haughton who was named as co-respondent in her divorce from Harold.

By mid-1924 when Dad arrived Addie was running a theatrical boarding house as Addie Leigh or Addie Leigh Fisher - but no sign of the husband.
 
I have Mrs.Marjorie E Wallace on a ship going to Colombo in October 1933. She seems to have been Simmonds for a mere four months, not the seven I was led to believe. Hopefully Dad's memoir will clarify some of this when I get to the Interesting Bit!

I've trawled through many Marjorie Wallaces and their journeys but discounted them - a) too many b) husbands with them at wrong addresses and in the wrong job. The only appropriate Wallace I've found so far is a Mines Surveyor listed in the UK 1939 register, Archibald Ure Wallace. Married, but maybe playing away like Marjorie. She bewitched men.

Thanks for the Simmonds hints - I'm not sure if that's my family though - unless it's another of Gran's many siblings. I'll check.

Dad worked mainly as a semi-itinerant Jackaroo while he was out there from 1924-1931.

Pam

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Tuesday 13 August 19 07:24 BST (UK)  »
I know. I found this too - tantalizing because of the anomalies. But the timing is about right. Still looking. I've emailed the Imperial School of Teachers of Dancing (ISTD) in London to see if they'll look in their records for 1930-1933, as that is when she was a member according to the 1934 Sydney newspapers. And of course what name she was using!

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Tuesday 13 August 19 00:10 BST (UK)  »
Did I miss that yesterday?!? But rewarding to have ferreted it out myself as well. Thank you for the reminder! :)

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Monday 12 August 19 23:50 BST (UK)  »
Can't sleep! So doing more research - and I've found where Mrs Marjorie Emma 'Wallace' aka Marjorie Leigh met Owen Robert Colverd! I had a feeling about all the globe-trotting, and checked out the ships' manifests. Here she is in 1936 coming home to Sydney from Cape Town on the 'Ceramic' after her gold-mining year with Mr Wallace -
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5378/32704_334610-00270/1039614?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/22427996/person/1239286331/facts
  - and a few pages away on the same ship, same journey, but embarked at Durban, is Owen Colverd! Shipboard romance that actually ended up as a solid marriage in the end.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5378/32704_334610-00267/1034769?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/22427996/person/422115177566/facts
The Imperial School for Teachers of Dancing still exists in London, so I'll email them and see if they have any record of Marjorie in 1931-33, and if so, what name she was registered under. I can't find Wallace on any of her ships around then, and she was already 'Mrs. Marjorie E Wallace' when she fled England in October 1933 after deserting Dad as swiftly as she deserted Raymond Judd. She had arrived in 1930 as Judd, and is Judd on the 1933 Marriage Certificate with Dad (Edwin C Simmonds) which I have among his papers.

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Monday 12 August 19 11:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Sue! I'll go and check out the link.
I may have found a contender for Wallace this morning - I looked at the 1939 UK register and found an Archibald Ure Wallace who was born in 1900 and whose occupation, interestingly, was 'Mining Surveyor.' Marjorie went with Wallace in 1933 0r 1934 to his Rhodesian gold mine. If this turns out to be the right chap, he was seriously playing away, as he had a wife, Dorothy, at home, with whom he is listed in 1939, and whom he married in 1931.

I had a friendly reply from Tim Colverd this morning, giving me access to his tree. Contact via WikiTree worked!

Pam

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Monday 12 August 19 07:01 BST (UK)  »
I have already tried contacting Tim Colverd via Ancestry, but with no response. Tried again on WikiTree just now. Thank you for the picture of Owen Colverd in the article he wrote - he looks so like my Dad! Marjorie also must have had a 'type'!  Thank you for the new information on her death and probate.

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Sunday 11 August 19 13:16 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Cup-of-Life! You are so generous with your help. Pam.

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Sunday 11 August 19 12:24 BST (UK)  »
Sue, MAJM and Cupoflife, I am overwhelmed! I have learned so much from you all today. It's like Christmas! Thank you so much. I now know what Marjorie looked like (yes, she was beautiful) and why she really came over to London for those life-changing two years for Dad ... 'Bollywood' and Dancing! And would you believe it, his 2nd wife was also called Marjorie and she was also a dancer! She used to be a professional dance partner at venues like the Hammersmith Palais, paid 'sixpence a dance' by those who had no-one to dance with to the wonderful dance and jazz bands of the 1930s. My father clearly had a 'type.' Mum was another quite glamorous looker - but a much, much sweeter and more loyal person than Marjorie Leigh. Thank you for the nudge re Fanny George, and her death date; I had failed to find that. The Ancestry profiles are filling up, and will continue to do so after this morning. My tree is public: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/22427996/family if you want to see where all this has got me so far.

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Sunday 11 August 19 07:32 BST (UK)  »
I am astonished at the amount of information I've woken up to this morning! And so grateful for the interest and the research work of all of you here at RootsChat. I now have a far clearer picture of the maverick behaviour of both the 'Leighs', and I can try inputting some of this fresh information into Ancestry in case there is anything else. I still have no picture of Marjorie; she was, according to Dad's memoir - which I am currently transcribing - extremely beautiful. And from what I have learned so far an utterly unscrupulous (and literal!) gold-digger. Thank you all so very much.

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