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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Thursday 11 May 23 11:01 BST (UK)  »
Yes, Girl Guide.
Ron was Minister for Police
This is my FIL's father. it is Doris' mother that (FIL mother's mother, Alice M Steel) that we are trying to find heritage for.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Thursday 11 May 23 10:29 BST (UK)  »
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3473721/3473724/61/brams

The Cardiff court reports refer to Charles as "cripple" and he appeals to the court "to have pity on a poor cripple". Genuine or acon?

It would seem that Charles A F Brams Senior was the "cripple" not junior. it was Charles jr who's parents were thiefs.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Thursday 11 May 23 06:20 BST (UK)  »
Have just been told full name if Alice. Alice Myrtle Steel

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Wednesday 10 May 23 12:54 BST (UK)  »
You have all clarified so much, but am really wanting to find Alice???

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Wednesday 10 May 23 10:16 BST (UK)  »
Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963

View imageView record
Record details
Name   Chas Alf Fred Brams
Gender   Male
Birth Date   1895
Departure Place   London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date   4 May 1924
Arrival Place   Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Age on Arrival   29
Vessel   Borda

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Wednesday 10 May 23 09:17 BST (UK)  »
Girl Guide, Sorry. Record details
Name   Charles Brams
Age in 1911   15
Estimated Birth Year   1896
Relation to Head   Son
Gender   Male
Civil parish   St Pancras
County/Island   London
Country   England
Street Address   9 Seaton Street, St Pancras
Registration District Number   9
Sub-registration district   West St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel   04
Piece   655
Household members
Name   Age
Charles Brams   36
Elizabeth Brams   33
Charles Brams   15
David Brams   6
Doris Brams   4
Violet Brams   3

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Family History Beginners Board / Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's
« on: Wednesday 10 May 23 07:49 BST (UK)  »
BACKGROUND
My mother's father was Charles Alfred  Frederick Brams, who married the pregnant Evelyn Derrick.
In 2001 my  family in England told me that CAF then found Evelyn was pregnant to another man...so he  "sent her back to live with her father".......which I have verified in Census records...and they were never divorced......and CAF then set up with Alice (Steel/Steele?) ......who then became pregnant.....and gave birth to my mother Doris .
CAF/Alice were never married so  CAF/Alice used his marriage cert to Evelyn, as Alice' entry to the UK hospital  (scam 1) to avoid the unmarried mother birth stigma on Doris' birth cert....which should have been birth mother  Alice..but shows parents CAF and Evelyn (scam2)  My mother never had a birth cert so she never knew about Evelyn as her official "mother".
CAF (and wife and baby) then came to Australia in 1924 on the ship BORDA, using his military passport which named Evelyn as his wife.....when the person with him was actually Alice!!!(scam 3).
Alice was known as Alice Brams in WA (scam 4) and at the Woorooloo Sanitorium (scam 5) where she died, and is buried (scam 6).

There is also the possibility that Evelyn was actually pregnant to him, but he deserted Evelyn after the marriage in favour of Alice....and that the family made up the "other man "story to make CAF to appear less at fault.

If the family story about Evelyn/Alice story is true, then it appears I am related to Alice......but I cannot find a single data item about her because I cant verify if she was really named Steel/Steele.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: White Family Aithsting, Shetland
« on: Thursday 27 April 23 10:13 BST (UK)  »
thank you, yes bayanne is excellent, but I have exhausted it.

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Family History Beginners Board / White Family Aithsting, Shetland
« on: Tuesday 25 April 23 09:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi all.
I am looking for any information on the White family from Tresta, Tumblin and Nether Houland.
I Have Peter White 1770, his father Magnus, his father Patrick.
I also have a James White B 1759, his father is Adam White. James wife is Christina White (maiden name), B: 1763 Her parents Adam White and Jane Tait.
Peters Daughter, Charlotte White, Married James and Christina's son, Andrew White
I know this is confusing.
Any help appreciated

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