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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin writing on 1718/9 marriage bond: Help Please
« on: Saturday 13 January 18 11:19 GMT (UK)  »
I would greatly appreciate help with the transcription and translation of the inserted Latin writing on the attached portion of a 1718/9 marriage bond. I am particularly interested in where George Trotter came from as I am trying to determine which one he was. The marriage bond was for John Mason of Heighington who married 03 Mar 1718/9 at Durham Cathedral.

Bruce.

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Horse Artillery Soldier
« on: Saturday 06 January 18 04:09 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Janette,

The image for the bpt. of John Edwin Allen is available on Ancestry. He was born 27 Jun 1834 and bpt. on 27 Jul 1834 at St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich.

Bruce. 

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Horse Artillery Soldier
« on: Friday 05 January 18 23:44 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Janette,

Most of the service records that I have from around this period run to about four pages or more and the soldier's unit is usually written in on the first page just to the right of crest and sometimes there is additional information on the unit just below the crest and just above the soldier's name.

I would have a close look at the documents again noting in particular anything that has been written in. These can be hard to read and sometimes the abbreviations hard to decipher but you could post them here. I noticed that findmypast appears to have documents relating to this in their British Army Service Records but these might only be the same ones that the National Archives sent you.

With regards to the Armed Forces Births once you have the relevant details from findmypast you can then purchase them from the GRO though they might not contain any extra information as was the case of two of mine from Gibraltar. As the four baptisms that you now have are quite early it may be that Elizabeth's maiden name might not be listed. The description of just what they can contain on FindMyPast is somewhat vague in regard to this.

Bruce.

   

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Horse Artillery Soldier
« on: Thursday 28 December 17 10:03 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Janette,

There are births for a Thomas Allen at Kilmainham 1828 and a Susanah Allen at Athlone 1831 in British Nationals Armed Forces Births 1761-2005 on findmypast that might be worth a look if you thought either of these sounded like your family and they would probably confirm Elizabeth's maiden name. I couldn't find a marriage in the associated page for either Elizabeth or James so they may have married in her local church.

My 3X great-grandfather's discharge records from the 5th Btn Royal Horse Artillery in 1848 have quite a lot of information on just where he served and dates of promotion. Perhaps if you posted which Btn he was with and any listed places and dates of service if you have them it might help.

Bruce in Brissie. 

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Horse Artillery Soldier
« on: Tuesday 26 December 17 00:01 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Janette,

I had a look at the 1851 census and then searched for a bpt. for Elizabeth in Newcastle 1839-1843 on FamilySearch. After looking at the image in the BT's and finding his occupation was a gunner I thought that this was very likely the right family.

As Elizabeth was bpt. on 30 May 1841 and the census was taken on the 06 June it seemed very likely that she would be found in Newcastle, in Barracks close to St. Andrew's and Born in the County so I searched for her rather than James. It was easy to find her as Allan on FamilySearch which I prefer for name variants.

You can see on the maps Stan posted links for that the Artillery Barracks are just a little NW of St. Andrew's Church in Gallowgate. There is also an image online of Barracks Square with description taken ca. 1894 posted by Newcastle Libraries. Just search for Barracks Square, Newcastle.

Bruce.

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Horse Artillery Soldier
« on: Monday 25 December 17 20:33 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Janette,

This looks like the family in 1841 at St John Northumberland indexed as Berwick Square but probably is meant to be Barrack Square and is available on both FamilySearch and Ancestry

James Allan  35 occupation Ar (struck through) Not born in County
Elizbth         30                                               Ireland
Thos            13                                               Ireland
Susanah        9                                               Ireland
John              6                                               Not born in County
Jane              4                                               Not born in County
Elizbeth         6mths                                        Born in County

Daughter Elizabeth bpt. 30 May 1841 no dob given at St. Andrew Newcastle upon Tyne abode Barracks occupation gunner. The image is available on FamilySearch in the England, Durham Diocese Bishop's Transcripts for Northumberland, Newcastle upon Tyne, St Andrew, 1838-1857, image no. 102.

Bruce.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1871 census
« on: Wednesday 20 December 17 08:37 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Tom,

Image is available on FamilySearch Bishop's Transcripts for Newburn. Entry no. 970 on image no. 447 of film no. 4047396. Abode appears to be written Dulay which also appears as Duley on the same page.

Bruce.

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The Common Room / Lookup at The National Archives Kew Please
« on: Friday 15 December 17 07:39 GMT (UK)  »
If anyone is going to The National Archives I would greatly appreciate a lookup of some Militia records for Durham. I am hoping to find further information on my 6 X great-grandfather John BEST who was a soldier with the Durham Militia when he married at Alnwick on 25 Feb 1796.

I have a copy of his record from a Muster Roll taken at Yarmouth Barracks on 22 Apr 1796 and it shows he had been a substitute and was a private. I am trying to ascertain just when he has returned to Northumberland. He is recorded as still being a soldier, however no unit is mentioned, when his daughter was baptized at Chillingham on 20 Jan 1799 having been born 22 Dec 1798.

The following are dates that I have from movement records of the Durham Militia

01 Nov 1795  Morpeth and Alnwick
01 Apr  1796  Doncaster en route to Yarmouth
01 May 1796  Yarmouth
01 May 1797  commenced to march to Hull
17 May 1797  arrived at Hull
01 May 1798  York
01 Jun  1798  Hull
01 Jul   1798  Burstwick Camp
01 Nov 1798  Stamford en route to Colchester
01 Dec 1798  Colchester Barracks

I believe he was still with the Durham Militia when it was stationed at Hull as the family returned there after his tenure of service. The 1796 Muster Roll does not show when his service commenced but I suspect he probably joined late in 1792 when it was re-embodied or very soon after. My feeling is that he had probably returned to Northumberland by late 1798 at the latest. His wife was in the advanced stages of pregnancy by then and I suspect they would have been aware of the pending move to Colchester.

I have the following reference numbers from The National Archives

WO 13/609 date 1798

WO 13/610 date 1799

WO 13/608 date 1780-1797

These are described as Militia and Volunteers Muster Books and Pay Lists for Durham though precisely what they might contain is not stated. WO 13/609 would seem the most likely one to contain the information I need on him however he may also be mentioned in WO 13/610 dependent on when he moved and just when the Musters were taken. If SKS could have a look at just what these records might contain and if there were more precise dates for them I would greatly appreciate it.

Bruce.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin land surrender 1722
« on: Wednesday 06 December 17 13:55 GMT (UK)  »
G'day Bookbox,

I checked through the 1680-1682 documents again but was unable to see anything that resembled a date. They are in six batches of roughly equal size that are arranged in the same village order and I now think it is more prbable that this one was for the period from Easter - Michaelmas 1680.

With respect to the phrase "outside the court at the City of Durham" I have found it used in a great number of other memoranda in the same place just after the name/s of the person/s appearing. I have contacted the Durham University Library, which houses all these wonderfull Halmote Court documents, but I haven't heard anything back frrom them yet. I think that this may have been their way of describing how the surrender and admission took place under the Halmote Court system. 

Thanks once again for all your help transcribing and translating these documents. It is very much appreciated.

Bruce.

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