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Hello Roy,

I have just seen this.  It's a very long time since the last post here but just in case you haven't researched the following and for anyone who is searching the name in the future:

The Francis Leach you are enquiring about was my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather.  The son of John Leech and Alice Newton he was born 4 Nov 1794 and christened Frank Leech 23 Nov 1794 in Little Snoring, Norfolk.  John and Alice were married 9 Sep 1784 and this is the furthest back that I have managed to get with either of them.  If anyone reads this who can help me further I would be very grateful indeed.  Transcriptions including banns, marriage and 10 other christenings for John and Alice can be found at www.the-snorings.co.uk/.  Images of these records can be found on the FamilySearch.org beta site England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900.



Francis Leech and Frances Broughton had their banns read at Tilkney All Saints on 9, 16 & 23 Sep 1821.  Francis is recorded as of this parish and Frances of Wiggenhall St. Germans.

The Tilney All Saints "Dole Book" for money given to the poor on St Thomas Day records Francis Leech receiving 1s 6d on 21 Dec 1844 and quite probably again in 1846 but only the surname Leech is written.

The 1841 and 1851 Census for Francis and Frances are recorded in above replies, here is the 1861 Census:

RG9/1051  Address:  Tilney All Saints - near Lynn & Wisbech Road.

Francis Leach - Head - Age 68 - Agricultural Labourer - Born Little Snoring
Frances Leach - Wife - Age 68 - Charwoman - Born Great Fransham.

Both Francis and Frances were buried at Tilney All Saints.  Francis age, 69, 4 Jun 1863 and Frances, age 77, of the parish of Walsoken, 12 Dec 1869.  Their gravestone is still in situ next to that of their daughter Hannah, who was buried 24 May 1844 age 13.

I have not been able to find any earlier records for Frances before the above, so again, any information that has been found by other researchers who read this would be gratefully received.

Regards,

Nick

Thank you jds1949 and Ken for your informative replies, they really have been a tremendous help to me.

I have been so lucky!  Having followed up information given to me on the "Dublin" forum of this site, I have just received in the post this morning, a copy of the church register entry for the marriage between Abraham Pollard and Elizabeth Rumlow and I am as sure as I can be that it relates to this same soldier ancestor of mine.

On this entry dated August 1849 in St Peters Dublin, he is recorded as a soldier 6th Carabineers, resident at Portobello Barracks, Dublin.

Am I right that the 6th Dragoons (Caribineers) and the 6th Dragoons (Inniskilling) are two separate regiments?

I am certain that the birth certificate of 1852, that I mentioned previously, recording him as a First Royal Dragoon is for my ancestor as there are no other births in Dorchester in the 19th century for a person with his daughters name and censuses do record her as born in Dorchester. 

This is the transcript for that birth certificate:

Where and When Born: 25 June 1852 - Grove Buildings, Fordington.
Name: Mary Ann.   Father: Abraham Pollard - Private Soldier First Royal Dragoons.
Mother: Elizabeth Pollard formerly Rumlow

Putting the two together must confirm your explanation that he was originally a 6th Dragoon and was transferred to the 1st somewhere between 1849 and 1852.

The full information I was given about Abraham Pollard as a First Dragoon is below and to make the family link I can prove Elizabeth Pollard of Thornham is most definitely a direct ancestor. 

Pollard, Pte Abraham (1193) [Dutton 69] died in the Crimea 26 September 1855.

• Jul to Sep 1854: with Service Troops entire period; 21 days on board ship; paid 92 days ordinary pay and 92 days additional pay at 2d per diem with stoppages for 71 days at 4 1/2d per diem; marginal note adds “6th Dn Gds No.
421” [54-3-5].

• Oct to Dec 1854: with Service Troops entire period; 9 days on board ship; (paid) 92 days ordinary pay and 92 days additional pay at 2d (per diem) (with stoppages for) 83 days on shore (at 4 1/2d per diem); marginal note
adds “(from) 6th Dn Gds, No. 421” [JDC][54-4-5] ; remittance on 12 November of £2-0-0 to Elizabeth Pollard [54-4-21].

• Jan to Mar 1855: with Service Troops entire period; paid 90 days ordinary pay and 90 days at 2d additional pay with stoppages for 90 days on shore at 4 1/2d per diem; marginal note adds “6th Dn Gds No. 421” [55-1-5].

• Apr to Jun 1855: with Service Troops entire period; paid 91 days ordinary pay and 91 days at 2d additional pay with stoppages for 91 days at 4 1/2d per diem; marginal note adds “6th Dn Gds No. 421” [55-2-5]; remittance on 4 Apr of £2-5-0 to Elizabeth Pollard [55-2-21].

• Jul to Sep 1855: with Service Troops 1 Jul through 26 Sep; 7 days in Regt or Genl Hospital; paid 88 days ordinary pay and 88 days at 2d additional pay and 81 days additional pay with stoppages for 81 days at 4 1/2d per diem; marginal note adds “6th Dn Gds No. 421” and “died on the 26th Sep” [55-3-5]; remittance on 6 Jul of £1-0-0 to Elizabeth Pollard [55-3-21].

• Form 20 [55-3-20]: born in Warrington; enlisted 1 Jun 1833; prior occupation: laborer; died 26 Sep 1855; effects and credits: £3-16-7; account: 375010; no known will; next of kin: wife Elizabeth; last known residence: Norfolk County, Thornham Parish.

• Crimean Medal [124][130][JDC] dead [A152]; with I. Clasp [124][JDC]; B. Clasp [141][JDC]; S. Clasp; dead; WO [A148][JDC].

• Medal Roll - Class 2: Died. Retired from service. Discharged. Roll dated Royal Barracks, Dublin, 10 Feb 59, Dead [JDC].

• E. E. Needes Collection, Crimean with 3 Clasps B.I.S., A. Pollard, 1st Dragoons [JDC].

• Medal with Clasps B.I.S. in Regt Museum (Household Cavalry) per letter from Roy Washington dated 19 Jun 1991 [JDC].

The replies I have received from the two of you have filled many of the gaps in my knowledge as to meanings in these Muster Roll entries.  I did try and contact the sender for some help in explanation but my message must have gone astray as I haven’t as yet had a reply so I must try again.  I think the only remaining questions I have are:

What is the Service Troop? Are these the “active duty” troops as opposed to at home in a depot?

Where isAbrahams medal?  Is it in the E. E. Needles Collection and is this a private medal collection?  Or is it in the John Darwent Collection (JDC?) and again, is this a private medal collection? Or is it perhaps in  Regt Museum (Household Cavalry)? 

Because of the mention of Forgotten Heroes - The Charge of the Heavy Brigade by Roy Dutton I purchased that book from Amazon and on page 69 is written:

1193 POLLARD, Private Abraham

Born:  Date Unknown - Warrington
Died:  26th September 1855 - Crimea
Enlisted:  1st June 1833
Status:  Probably rode in the Charge
Medals:  Crimea (B.I.S.)

The musters show he was effective from 1st October to the 31st December 1854 with an additional 2d per diem good conduct pay.  Trade on enlistment Labourer.

Unfortunately I have no knowledge on how to research military records or their meanings and can not see myself having the opportunity to visit Kew or like record offices to gain an insight, thus I am reliant on the likes of your expertise and goodwill for help so I must again thank you both very much indeed.
 
Regards

Nick.

I was lucky enough to be given what I believe to be Muster Roll entries the period 1854 to 1855 for my ancestor Private Abraham Pollard 1193 who served with the First Royal Dragoons.  The last two entries are below.  All of them have the marginal note “6th Dn Gds No. 421”.

• Apr to Jun 1855: with Service Troops entire period; paid 91 days ordinary pay and 91 days at 2d additional pay with stoppages for 91 days at 4 1/2d per diem; marginal note adds “6th Dn Gds No. 421” [55-2-5]; remittance on 4 Apr of £2-5-0 to Elizabeth Pollard [55-2-21].

• Jul to Sep 1855: with Service Troops 1 Jul through 26 Sep; 7 days in Regt or Genl Hospital; paid 88 days ordinary pay and 88 days at 2d additional pay and 81 days additional pay with stoppages for 81 days at 4 1/2d per diem; marginal note adds “6th Dn Gds No. 421” and “died on the 26th Sep” [55-3-5]; remittance on 6 Jul of £1-0-0 to Elizabeth Pollard [55-3-21].

Can anyone shed any light on what this might mean? 

Could it be that he had transferred to the 1st from the 6th?

Is the number 421 his service number while with the 6th? (Did service numbers change at that time on transfer?)

He is recorded as a First Royal Dragoon on the birth certificate of his daughter in 1852 and also in Roy Duttons book Forgotten Heroes – The Charge Of The Heavy Brigade.

An explanation would be gratefully received.

Can anybody help me please?

Is St Peter-340, Dublin likely to be St. Peter's Church, Phibsboro?

Also I would be most grateful if any more detail can be found on this marriage recorded on familysearch.org.

Date:  27 August 1849
Place:  St Peter-340, Dublin
Husband:  Abraham Pollard
Spouse:  Elizabeth Rumlow
Husbands Father:  Robert
Spouses Father: Thomas

Is -340 likely to be a transcibers error?

I am hoping that Abraham Pollard was a Dragoon born in Warrington and Elizabeth was born in Norfolk.

Many thanks

Just to close the loop should anyone else pass this way and I can help with their research, especially you Norfolk Lass .

I have obtained the birth certificate for Mary Ann Pollard which has the following information.

Where and When Born: 25 June 1852 - Grove Buildings, Fordington.
Name: Mary Ann.   Father: Abraham Pollard - Private Soldier First Royal Dragoons.
Mother: Elizabeth Pollard formerly Rumlow

From this I made a post on another forum and was kindly given further information on Abraham Pollard the most pertinent is below:

• Form 20 [55-3-20]: born in Warrington; enlisted 1 Jun 1833; prior occupation: laborer; died 26 Sep 1855; effects and credits: £3-16-7; account: 375010; no known will; next of kin: wife Elizabeth; last known residence: Norfolk County, Thornham Parish.

Update 24 May 10 More information is in the Armed Forces forum of this site under the "Enquiry on a Muster Roll entry" thread.