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Perthshire / Re: SCOTT & RUTHERFORD families 1700s
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 09:49 BST (UK) »
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Perthshire / SCOTT & RUTHERFORD families 1700s
« on: Tuesday 09 April 24 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hello. I have hit brick-walls with these families (so much so that I haven't looked at them for a few years) – SCOTT & RUTHERFORD & would appreciate any help. Thank you.
Peter SCOTT b.1784 Scotland d.<1855 Scotland - Peter has been a brick-wall going any further back into his history / ancestors
Listed as Farmer on son Jame's d/c
m. unknown
Children’s births:
PETER 26 SEPT 1784
(MALE) SCOTT, BIRTH MARCH 1785, BURIAL 30 MARCH 1785
MARGARET 09 JULY 1786
NELLY 21 MAY 1786
WILLIAM 06 APRIL 1788
PATRICK 16 JAN 1791
MARY 08 APRIL 1792
ANN 02 JUNE 1793
THOMAS 20 JULY 1794
ROBERT 20 JULY 1794
DAVID 28 FEB 1799
JAMES 21 DEC 1808 Christened at Abernethy, Perth, Scotland (this is my direct ancestor)
HELLEN 13 SEPT 1811
James SCOTT m. 25 May 1826, Newburgh, Fife, Scotland
to Helen (Ellen) RUTHERFORD b.1810 Barterfield, Perthshire, Scotland - the RUTHEFORD family has been a brick-wall going any further back into history / ancestors
Marriage details from Parish No: 450 Volume 0020 Newburgh
James Scott, Labourer, residing in the Parish of Dunbarnie and Helen Rutherford,
residing in this Parish (Newburgh) gave in their names for proclamation for marriage
were proclaimed thrice times and married on the 25th day of May anent (1826).
Helen’s parents:
John RUTHERFORD b.c1780 Forgandenny, Perthshire, Scotland. in 1855 living in Scone, Scotland.
Jane ?? b. c1769 Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland. in 1855 living in Scone, Scotland.
1851 Scotland Census records John RUTHERFORD “Living at Black Rd, New Scone, Perthshire, Scotland. born: Forgandenny, Perthshire. age 71 yrs”
Thank you for any assistance.
Peter SCOTT b.1784 Scotland d.<1855 Scotland - Peter has been a brick-wall going any further back into his history / ancestors
Listed as Farmer on son Jame's d/c
m. unknown
Children’s births:
PETER 26 SEPT 1784
(MALE) SCOTT, BIRTH MARCH 1785, BURIAL 30 MARCH 1785
MARGARET 09 JULY 1786
NELLY 21 MAY 1786
WILLIAM 06 APRIL 1788
PATRICK 16 JAN 1791
MARY 08 APRIL 1792
ANN 02 JUNE 1793
THOMAS 20 JULY 1794
ROBERT 20 JULY 1794
DAVID 28 FEB 1799
JAMES 21 DEC 1808 Christened at Abernethy, Perth, Scotland (this is my direct ancestor)
HELLEN 13 SEPT 1811
James SCOTT m. 25 May 1826, Newburgh, Fife, Scotland
to Helen (Ellen) RUTHERFORD b.1810 Barterfield, Perthshire, Scotland - the RUTHEFORD family has been a brick-wall going any further back into history / ancestors
Marriage details from Parish No: 450 Volume 0020 Newburgh
James Scott, Labourer, residing in the Parish of Dunbarnie and Helen Rutherford,
residing in this Parish (Newburgh) gave in their names for proclamation for marriage
were proclaimed thrice times and married on the 25th day of May anent (1826).
Helen’s parents:
John RUTHERFORD b.c1780 Forgandenny, Perthshire, Scotland. in 1855 living in Scone, Scotland.
Jane ?? b. c1769 Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland. in 1855 living in Scone, Scotland.
1851 Scotland Census records John RUTHERFORD “Living at Black Rd, New Scone, Perthshire, Scotland. born: Forgandenny, Perthshire. age 71 yrs”
Thank you for any assistance.
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Europe / Re: Antoni Melzer from Prussia who immigrated to Australia 1855
« on: Friday 22 January 21 07:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello Christa
Wondering if you’ve found any other info on our great+ grandfather, Antoni Melzer. (I think I have corresponded with you several years ago however I cannot find the emails.)
In 2019 I spent some time in Hamburg Germany with the objective of finally getting to the bottom of finding out Antoni’s origins.
My research again hit brick walls, with one institution, the BallinStadt Hamburg Emigration Museum, requesting a copy of my research as it was much more comprehensive than their records.
Another question I cannot find an answer to, is –
“what Antoni was doing in his first six years in Australia?”
i.e. from his arrival 26 April 1855, (where did he live, work, etc? ) until he turned up in Gundagai 08 February 1861 for his wedding.
Wondering if you’ve found any other info on our great+ grandfather, Antoni Melzer. (I think I have corresponded with you several years ago however I cannot find the emails.)
In 2019 I spent some time in Hamburg Germany with the objective of finally getting to the bottom of finding out Antoni’s origins.
My research again hit brick walls, with one institution, the BallinStadt Hamburg Emigration Museum, requesting a copy of my research as it was much more comprehensive than their records.
Another question I cannot find an answer to, is –
“what Antoni was doing in his first six years in Australia?”
i.e. from his arrival 26 April 1855, (where did he live, work, etc? ) until he turned up in Gundagai 08 February 1861 for his wedding.
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« on: Thursday 18 February 16 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Beg for your response.
Answers to your 2 qts:
Certificate Purchase
I have not purchased any certificates yet as I was unsure what extra information they would yield (if any).
After your comment that "Post-1875 so should include mother's maiden name, age and birthplace" I will investigate the cost of purchasing "1880/18563 - MORRIS, Solomon - mother: Soube father: Shemus".
Esther Rose MORRIS
(b.c.1876 ?Dunedin, New Zealand - d. 24 Feb 1912 Narrandera, NSW, Australia).
Birth Name: Ester-Roza TZVI-HIRSH. m. Sydney 1894 to Moses Isaac (Isaac) SHAPIRA (?? - 10 March 1940 Queanbeyan NSW Australia). Birth Name: Mosheh-Yitzchak SHABSI
Thank you for any forthcoming assistance.
Answers to your 2 qts:
Certificate Purchase
I have not purchased any certificates yet as I was unsure what extra information they would yield (if any).
After your comment that "Post-1875 so should include mother's maiden name, age and birthplace" I will investigate the cost of purchasing "1880/18563 - MORRIS, Solomon - mother: Soube father: Shemus".
Esther Rose MORRIS
(b.c.1876 ?Dunedin, New Zealand - d. 24 Feb 1912 Narrandera, NSW, Australia).
Birth Name: Ester-Roza TZVI-HIRSH. m. Sydney 1894 to Moses Isaac (Isaac) SHAPIRA (?? - 10 March 1940 Queanbeyan NSW Australia). Birth Name: Mosheh-Yitzchak SHABSI
Thank you for any forthcoming assistance.
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« on: Tuesday 16 February 16 06:16 GMT (UK) »
Dear Spades
Thank you so much for taking the time & effort to find this for me. It is very much appreciated.
I now know that Toube's first child was probably not her 2nd husband's however I cannot find the birth under the NZ BDM - I have just spend some time trying all the variations of her name & Toube's & Harris & Peerie & Tvi-Hirsch.
I also tried to find the death of her 1st husband under Harris & Peerie & Tvi-Hirsch - but to no avail .
I read the info on searching the NZ BDM & there does not appear to be a wildcard entry.
Thank you again for your assistance.
Thank you so much for taking the time & effort to find this for me. It is very much appreciated.
I now know that Toube's first child was probably not her 2nd husband's however I cannot find the birth under the NZ BDM - I have just spend some time trying all the variations of her name & Toube's & Harris & Peerie & Tvi-Hirsch.
I also tried to find the death of her 1st husband under Harris & Peerie & Tvi-Hirsch - but to no avail .
I read the info on searching the NZ BDM & there does not appear to be a wildcard entry.
Thank you again for your assistance.
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« on: Friday 08 January 16 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Spades - that would be great; Feb is fine - whenever you can get into the Reading Room.
The details are:
Archives reference: ADAQ 8937 BDM20/21
Intention to Marry for Tovbi Peerie Harris and Morris Schames, Dunedin, 11 April 1876
The details are:
Archives reference: ADAQ 8937 BDM20/21
Intention to Marry for Tovbi Peerie Harris and Morris Schames, Dunedin, 11 April 1876
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« on: Thursday 31 December 15 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Minniehaha, You are correct in that I do not have a copy of the m/c.
May I ask from where did you obtain the marriage date?
Thanks for your help.
May I ask from where did you obtain the marriage date?
Thanks for your help.
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« on: Thursday 31 December 15 06:44 GMT (UK) »
Janette, Thanks for the link. Very interesting information.
I hope I receive a response from the Wellington Archives once everyone is back at work in the New Year.
I hope I receive a response from the Wellington Archives once everyone is back at work in the New Year.
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« on: Wednesday 30 December 15 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Minniehaha. I followed the link you gave me & it directed me to Open Access however at a Reading Room in Wellington. I have sent off an email to the Archives office asking how I can access it (hoping that it is not in 1875 - the year before they actually married which was 1876).
Thanks for the lead.
Thanks for the lead.