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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 19 March 10 09:42 GMT (UK)  »
Your welcome Mirella.  Im more excited now because I definitely know where I want to go when I head to France!

Can't wait to chat to Yvonne, I can't believe its a real relative to my Dad!

Keep in touch, let me know how you go with Matthiew and Susanne. 

Cheers Toni


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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 19 March 10 09:03 GMT (UK)  »
All 3 of us Yuvonne, Lisa and my Dad desend from MATTHIEU HELLEUR  d 4th Nov 1705 married Suzanne Alexandre 1681

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 19 March 10 08:58 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Lisa branches off from FRANCOIS HELLEUR b 1802 he married ESTER AMY.

Now FRANCOIS father is FRANCOIS HELLEUR B 1768 married Suzanne Le Gros.

FRANCOIS brother JEAN HELLEUR b 1763 is FREDERIC FRANCOIS (who married Anne Pipon) father.

Ive colour coded, as you can see there is so many FRANCOIS'S AND FREDERIC'S AND FREDERICK'S!  no wonder we are confused!

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 19 March 10 08:42 GMT (UK)  »
Dad dug some info out!

Ship was called MONARCH left the London docks 19th Nov 1849. 

Sailing went well until they reached Tasmania, where the Captain tried to run into Hobart as they were short on provisionings.  The ship was blown off course and hove to for 4 days.  Then the captain decided to sail around the North Cape for Auckland  which was the planned destination.  That evening the 5th March 1850, having been 106 days at sea we were in very rough seas and the rudder has broken away.  There was nothing for it, but to run with the wind driving the vessel south of Stewart Island.  On the 18th March, a temporary rudder was rigged by the carpenter and passengers in attempt to save themselves.  They eventually headed for Port Chalmers, all went well until the 24th March.  When off Cape Sanduers, the jury rudder broke away.  The vessel was imminent danger of going ashore.  Soundings was taken at 9.15pm, 25 fathoms.  10pm 12 fathoms and the  Captain gave the order to let the star board anchor go with the full length of chain.  Towards midnight the winds changed and blew off shore.  "Weigh anchor" up came the chain with no anchor for it had not been properly shackled.

Few more dramas happened.................

The vessel was met by boats with fresh supplies on the 1st April a mile from the heads of Akaroa Harbour. 

Landed 2nd April 1850 in Akaroa.  41 settlers decided to stay in Akaroa, Frederic and Eliza being amongst that stayed.

Hope you enjoy this!

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 19 March 10 08:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, dont worry I was the same when I replied to Lisa  :)

Yes of course she can email us on (*).  I can forward our family tree to her.  I found this site slightly confusing so I would persume Yvonne may also.  I actually came across this site by mistake as my son Javan googled his own name!

Im stoked as we are both going to France in May and really want to go where Dad is from etc.

I will give you some rough info that I have in front of me.  Please note there maybe more to add, but Its to exciting to wait.  So will fill you in as best as can now.

Frederick arrived in New Zealand around 1840's (I can give exact dates when I dig out our book) and yes arrived in Akaroa, Banks Peninsula Canterbury.  Dad has voyage details of how and why they arrived in Akaroa.

Lillys parents where FREDERIC (actual spelling) HELLEUR b 1830 and ELIZA HARRINGTON m 1858.  What Dad has is 11 children here on this tree.
Florence b 7th Aug 1858, Elizabeth 1st Aug 1860, Ellen 1862, Eugene 18th Feb 1866, Fredrick 24th Oct 1868, LILLY 5th Oct 1870, Rose 1872, George 5th Oct 1874, May 15th Jan 1877, Henry 1879 and Winnerfred 2nd July 1882.

Frederick (from above) parents where FREDERIC FRANCOIS b 1796 d 1875 m ANNE PIPON b 1800 d 1841.  Married date ?  They had 5 children.
Anne Elizabeth b 1823, Elizabeth 1825, FREDERIC 1830, John 1832 and Helen 1836.

Can send more via email  :)

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 19 March 10 06:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mirella

Yes that is our line.  My Dad (Murray Norman Helleur b 1955) Great grandfather is FREDERICK FRANCES HELLEUR who married SOPHIA SARAH HERBET.  Frederick is Lilys brother.  Which makes my Dad a direct relation to your godmother!

Frederick and Eliza married in 1858.  Frederick was born 1830 and died 9th aug 1904.  Dad has a photo of Eliza's grave, one of her children is buried there also. 

We do not have any further info for Lily.  Can you let us know who she married, dates, children etc as this means we do not have info on Yvonne.

We do not have any information on Yvonnes fathers side TAYLOR sorry.  We can help with the HELLEUR line.

I have meet on this website a lady called Lisa who is also related and decends from the AMY family line from FRANCOIS HELLEUR who married ESTER AMY.  She is helping us fill in some blanks.

So it would be really great if all three of us keep in touch. 

We live in Auckland.  Are you close by at all?

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Mallet - Grouville Channel islands
« on: Wednesday 17 March 10 21:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lisa

Thank you for your reply regarding HELLEUR and AMY family.  Im new to this site and its a little confusing to use as in being able to reply etc.

My Dad will be the best one to ask in regards to the AMY family.  He is very keen to touch base with information.  You can email us on helleur@gmail.com or tonihelleur@hotmail.com.

Be great to hear from you!

Cheers Toni

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey lookup request Helleur/Amy family
« on: Friday 12 March 10 08:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi!

I am so excited to find this!!!! We are from New Zealand, my Dad Murray Helleur is  5th generation NZ and is eldest son to Norman Clarence and Joyce Aimee Helleur (nee Hammond).  Dad is from the line from which I have been reading about in the forum!  I have been desperately trying to find information as I am off to France May this year, to purely see where Dads roots is from but we have had no luck with information!

The Helleur's arrived to NZ from (Jersey) we have been told and set sail landing in Akaroa, Christchurch, New Zealand.  Every Helleur in New Zealand is related. 

Dad has done genealogy as well and would love to get in touch with others following the same tree!

Cheers Toni Helleur

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