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Cheshire / Re: 1859 newspapers for Frodsham/Kingsley?
« on: Friday 28 January 11 21:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks.

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Cheshire / 1859 newspapers for Frodsham/Kingsley?
« on: Thursday 27 January 11 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

Does anybody know which newspaper would be likely to cover the Frodsham and/or Kingsley areas in 1859? My guess is The Chester Chronical, but I can't seem to find out for sure.

I obtained a death certificate for a Francis Herrin "razor grinder" d. May 1859. The registrar was notified by the Coroner with cause of death given as "found dead in bed". An inquest was to be held on 17 May 1859 and I'd very much like to find out the outcome.

Many thanks.

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Canada / Re: Lavinia Jones b. 1840s Halifax Nova Scotia
« on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:00 GMT (UK)  »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,365991.15.html
I remember an enquiry regarding this family.  Link to information found earlier.


Debbie

Fantastic start - thanks Debbie.

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Canada / Lavinia Jones b. 1840s Halifax Nova Scotia
« on: Wednesday 19 January 11 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all.
I have been researching my family history for a year or so now but have never had to venture beyond the UK and could use a hand getting started.

I'm trying to find details of my GGG grandmother: Lavinia Jones. Here's what I know:

  • In the 1861 Cencus Lavinia (15) is listed with mother Mary Jones (44 possibly in error)) and little brother George (6) all born in NS (So I'll probably need help locating them too!). Sister Elizabeth is given as 1 yr old and born in Stockport, so it looks like they came to England pre 1860(ish).
  • She married Alfred Royle on September 27th 1869 in Heaton Norris, Stockport where her father is given as Peter Jones.
  • In 1871 Lavinia (now Royle) (21) is at home with father Peter (42) (born Stockport) and mother Mary (41), Husband Alfred (22) and it looks like George (16) has become William G. Their births are now given as "America". Elizabeth is given as 13

Any help in finding the births of Lavinia Jones, William G or George Jones, and their mother Mary Jones would be absolutely amazing. As a bonus, I'd like to find the marriage between Mary and Peter Jones which looks like it may also have been in Nova Scotia. As the cherry on top, if I could find their journey to England I would be completely made-up!

P.S I don't know if it is important, but on a later census (1901) in Lavinia's place of birth there is a note saying "British Subject". Does this mean her nationality at birth was British or could she have been naturalised?

Thanks in advance,
Andy.

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Navy records (pre WW1)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 13:14 GMT (UK)  »
To answer my own question it looks like those records end in the mid-late 1860's
My guess is Samuel Whitworth joined in 1890 if indeed he did join!

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Navy records (pre WW1)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 13:06 GMT (UK)  »
PJ, nope. I haven't. I'll throw some hours at that.

One last gasp...
It says he served 12 years. Is that likely to mean he joined at 16 and did his 10 year engagement starting at age 18? If so it might give me a date of entry into Navy.

Second, in the "Why can't I find an entry?" section on the NA site it states
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Service records for ratings issued with CS numbers 1- 40,000 (including those with an A or B suffix) are found within pieces ADM 188/1-4, which are not searchable by name. You can download these records free of charge and scroll through the documents, which are similar to indexes in appearance.

Does anybody know enough about this stuff to know if he might be in there? I gather CS numbers are for "Continuous Service" which if he did 12 years it's likely he did.

Ta.

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Navy records (pre WW1)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 12:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Just in case...

There is a Samuel Whitworth, a collier, who served in the Royal North Lancs reg, right age, for 12 years - his father is Samuel, brother Major, wife Bestey

Junev
Thanks junev - I'll look into that.

And PJ, thanks for your efforts, looks like it will remain a mystery.

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Navy records (pre WW1)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 11:40 GMT (UK)  »
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 ...It also says "Man states he served 12 yrs in Royal Navy".
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ASheriff,

Just out of interest, what date did Samuel enlist in the Army?

PJ

I believe it was September 8 1914. His former trade or occupation is given as "miner" so there may have been a gap between his Navy service and his Army misadventure.

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Navy records (pre WW1)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 11:22 GMT (UK)  »

I can't find any record of this service.

Would it be possible to provide us with his name/DOB, etc?

Regards,

Peter.

I'll give you what I've got..

His name was Samuel Whitworth.
He was a Private in the 2nd Bn., South Lancashire Regiment, number 3557
Died 0n 13 Sep 1918
His death cert in 1918 says Age 43 years.
I have never established his birth record, but I have his death, marriage, ancestors etc.

His WW1 pension records are fascinating (to me anyway) - tells about his wound at Thiepval in 1916, the hospital he went to, what they did to him, and then an entry "Man died 13.9.18". It breaks my heart every time I read it. Just one of the poppies that falls every remembrance day.

I'd love to find out about his Navy service (if it exists), as he sounds like a colourful character. One of the remarks on his pension records is under "discriptive marks" it says "wound marks and numerous tattoing all over body". It also says "Man states he served 12 yrs in Royal Navy".

Any help greatly appreciated.

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