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Hi just remembered the Bell connection is Mary Bell born 1830 died 1909 wife of Thomas standing, but by now you probably know that
Kind Regards Trish

Hi Chris,  thank you so much for your response.
William was arrested for stealing from a Solicitor in Shelton 1842, it looks like a real possibility much more acceptable than the previous one Edward  born 1836 and would make William just a little older B1821. I guess it means they married after Thomas was born?
So very grateful for all the help.
Kind Regards Trish

Hi Skylark,
Another Genealogist researching my William Johnson has him married to Sarah Nixon 6th March 1836 and their son Edward Andrew Johnson born September 1836. William is supposed to have been born 7th Sept 1821 they mention Audley Staffordshire,  I had Hanley Staffordshire Potteries where he eventually worked as a packer before he was convicted 7th October 1842 at the Special Assizes Stafford and sentenced to 15 years for burglary of Solicitor Mr Griffin at Shelton and for participating in the Chartist Riots.
So I guess what I am asking is if the above marriage is correct would there be any information on parents of either of them and how would I follow up on Edward as after William became a freeman he married ( no wedding certificate) Ellen Mclean and went on to have 9 more children but there was never a reference to Edward, so he just made a new life in Australia.
Would be very grateful if you or anyone else who sees this entry could help me to further my research.
Kind Regards Trish

Hi, thankyou for your response, the first William Johnson on the Renwick is the correct one, as you can see there were others born circa 1821 named
William Johnson also transported to Australia it was very confusing and to make matters worse I have been researching the William Johnson on the vessel Jardine, only to find after many years and only in the last few weeks he was the wrong one.
The wife I believe he left behind was Sarah stated on his actual convict record.
I found a record with a Willliam Johnson bachelor married Sarah Cates spinster 14 July 1841,Lambeth St Mary (in 1754-1921) records then strangely in 14.4.1845 John William Johnson bachelor to Sarah Cates spinster? Lambeth St Mary.
My William Johnson is supposed to have married Ellen Mclean in 1850 in Launceston but it was a weird one as there are absolutely no records of this marriage but Ellen did marry a Thomas Ranger in 1849 and then it just seems she had a daughter  Ellen to him and then took off with William and the next thing we know is they arrive in N.S.W claiming Ellen is born to William Johnson and they then have another daughter who they name Sarah in 1853.
Following children were Esther Elizabeth, Elizabeth, William, Catherine, Edward, James,Louisa, Ellen (Helen) Margaret.
Don't  know what to make of abbrev eations,   if I look too long I think it might mean new partner or mother, don't they usually refer to father with F and why on his record does it only mention Sarah? Thank you again for your kindness in trying to make some sense of this elusive man. I just feel there has to be more when he was involved in the riots and a member of the Chartist movement.
Kind Regards Trish

Hi, thank you so much for your help with my ancestor Michael Walsh(now Welsh, some of his children were born Welsh/Welch) It does appear that many families named their children the same again if one died. It might also mean John's father or Ellens father was named Michael so they would want the name to continue on?    I am wondering if there is an area I can see if there are siblings to same parents, or if I could find a marriage, I realize it was such an uncertain and unpleasant time in Irish History with the famine when Michael enlisted in the 11h foot Nth Devonshire regiment in 1844 and many family members may have died.
Michael and Judith nee Mulvihill named their children Annie Elizabeth ( I think after Judiths mother) Michael Joseph,John,Ellen, Patrick,James,Mary Ann,Margaret.
By the time Michael died age 48 in 1877 ( I have to think his son as informant didn't know his correct age), his family had added the E to Walshe.
Please accept my grateful thanks, perhaps I can research the areas mentioned Kellsgrange and Glauntha, as most people always hopeful there is still someone there still connected to me. 
 Kind Regards from down under Trish