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Cork / Re: more DONOVANs from Clonakilty
« on: Wednesday 23 August 23 01:53 BST (UK)  »
It is possible as the marriage certificates of both occurred after 1860 however all family histories I've read say that 3 siblings arrived on the Tasmania.  Whether this is from personal memory or just hearsay I don't know.  I thought you might be interested in the following notes I made some years ago.
"An entry in his Bible by Daniel Donovan tells us what little we know about his Irish forebears. Eleven Donovan children were born in Ireland to John Donovan and Bridget Kuhane in the first half of the nineteenth century. Some of the family migrated to the United States; four came to Australia: Timothy, Daniel and Mary arrived together in Melbourne at the end of 1858; Michael Arrived later.
About Michael little was known till recently, until (April 1994) Mr Les O’Callaghan of Warrnambool, active in several Historical Societies, has turned up for me some information from among State Records of Births Deaths and Marriages. Michael is listed as having been born in Cork in 1845. He died in Warrnambool 1926 at the age of 76, {Cert. no 7926} and married Catherine Looney (1856-1945) some time between June and December 1876, {Cert no 4329}. Catherine was the daughter of Daniel Looney and Catherine Kelleher.
This is from a website that John O'Leary told me about - and is not necessarily true!  It was thought that John Donovan's wife's name was Mary Keohane"

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Cork / Re: more DONOVANs from Clonakilty
« on: Tuesday 22 August 23 00:45 BST (UK)  »
How interesting that the children married into both families!  They certainly had it tough back then!
Regards
Ann

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Cork / Re: more DONOVANs from Clonakilty
« on: Monday 21 August 23 04:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Brian
It's possibly that the Lawrence listed on the "Tasmania" with Daniel and Mary should have been "Timothy" but I really don't think so given that I believe Timothy was born in 1832 (going on his age at time of marriage and at time of death).  I know it's only a three year difference but I believe it more likely that the Timothy Donovan who came out on the "Broughton Hall" was our Timothy because the age of this Timothy is closer to the ages as stated above.
The family histories say that Timothy came out with Daniel and Mary on the Tasmania but the proof is in the shipping list - the person that came with Mary and Daniel is listed as Lawrence!
The family histories also say that Daniel was born on Christmas Day 1835 yet Timothy is said to be the older brother!  As the histories are only recollections written some generations later, I don't believe they are very exact.
I can't find Lawrence either.  There is a Lawrence Donovan from Clonakilty who was a sailor/master but I can't see this being one of our family. 
Yes, it has been assumed that the Arthur Leary/O'Leary on the Tasmania is the person Mary Donovan married.
Regards
Ann

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: McKnoe/Mcnoe family of New Abbey
« on: Wednesday 18 January 23 09:13 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry elizabethsarah, it doesn't look as if I've replied to you.  Yes, that would be "my" Elizabeth McKnoe (several spelling versions of her name).  Her husband came out to Australia in 1830, she and her children William and Jessie followed in 1833 on board the Cygnet.  Source: Friends of Battye Library.  I have seen that advertisement you mention about Shipping Intelligence.  I think it comes from the Perth Gazette of 2 February 1833.  I know nothing about Emma Mould.
Regards
Ann

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hopgoods of Hampshire
« on: Saturday 20 August 22 01:16 BST (UK)  »
I'm not sure of anything now, Little Nell.  It's only supposition that, because she was married at Andover, she was also born there.  Her second marriage occurred there and two of her children were born there and there is a Sarah Hopgood born there at about the right time (to make her 18 when she married).  Other Trees and LDS have this information but I know that's not proof

Everything I thought I knew is fast disappearing!!

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hopgoods of Hampshire
« on: Friday 19 August 22 02:51 BST (UK)  »
LizzieL - I just wasn't sure about the marriage between Thomas H and Ann Bennet because of the gap in time between marriage of 1743 and the birth of daughter Sarah about 1761.  Seeing all those other siblings you mention, it now makes sense and she could very well be the right person.

Little Nell – Sarah Hutchins (nee Hopgood?) says in the 1851 census that she was born in Overton (where she was living at the time).  I’m beginning to doubt, now, that this Sarah Hutchins is one and the same as the Sarah Hopgood that was born in Andover around 1761 and married Thomas Hutchins.  In which case, I don’t know when she died.  I think her husband Thomas Hutchins died in Andover in 1799.

Thank you both for your help
Ann

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hopgoods of Hampshire
« on: Thursday 18 August 22 09:38 BST (UK)  »
Sorry.  I've got myself mixed up.  You are right.  Sarah Hopgood's parents would have been married around 1750s or 1760s.  So to clarify, looking for a marriage of her parents Thomas Hopgood and Ann unknown in the 1760s or earlier, possibly in Andover. 

(Thomas and Sarah Hutchins are the children of Sarah nee Hopgood and her second husband Thomas Hutchins with whom Sarah was living in the 1841 census).  Hope that is a bit clearer

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Hopgoods of Hampshire
« on: Thursday 18 August 22 03:38 BST (UK)  »
I'd appreciate it if anyone could help me with this family.  My 4 x great grandmother is Sarah Hopgood. Baptised Andover 1761 to Thomas Hopgood and wife Ann.  I have found a lot of info on Sarah, married (1) Thomas Stroud and (2) Thomas Hutchins. (The 1841 census of her living with children Thomas and Sarah is the worst I've ever seen!!!)  Died 1852 Overton Hampshire.

What I'm searching for is her parents, specifically her mother.  Many Trees say her mother's name is Ann Bennett but I'm not convinced.  Are there any marriages for a Thomas Hopgood to someone called Ann, please? (Son Thomas bapt 1794 and daughter Sarah bapt 1796 both in Andover so possibly the marriage was in Andover in the 1790s)

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Armagh / Re: Mullaghglass
« on: Saturday 11 December 21 12:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Kiltaglassan and IanT1967
So interesting to know that the Truesdale family had a family farm in Mullaghglass for hundreds of years.  My relative Charles was no doubt just one of a large family who wish to find his fortune elsewhere.  He did end up on the goldfields in Victoria eventually (but didn't make his fortune!).
Goodness gracious; I've used all sorts of variations on the Truesdale name in my searches but would never have thought to look for "Fruesdal!!)
I did eventually get to Ireland and grabbed a taxi in Newry to take me out to see the church at Mullaghglass - although the taxi driver had to ask all his fellow drivers if anyone had ever heard of the place lol - and I was able to take a few photographs
Thanks again everyone
Ann

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