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Flintshire / Re: Wynne/Steeple/Mathews of Gop, Trelawnyd
« on: Sunday 22 May 16 22:03 BST (UK)  »
That makes perfect sense. Now I'm wondering if the mysterious Steeple who married John Hughes of Llanfwrog/Ruthin is part of this, or in fact a Steeple at all. Or if Thomas Hughes married his cousin.

Many thanks!

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Flintshire / Re: Wynne/Steeple/Mathews of Gop, Trelawnyd
« on: Sunday 22 May 16 18:41 BST (UK)  »
Hello Roger!

Yes, I've been looking at that too - wrong time frame, but...

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Flintshire / Wynne/Steeple/Mathews of Gop, Trelawnyd
« on: Sunday 22 May 16 17:36 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for a connection between John Hughes of Llanfrwog, Ruthin (1661 -1738), a Mr Steeple of Holywell and the Wynne family of Gop Farm, Newmarket/Trelawnyd

I've found a letter to my g-gf from a Matthews-Hughes cousin which mentions a picture: "This picture belonged to the Wynnes of Gop in the co.y of Flint & came into my family about 1700 through my ancestor Mr Steeple of Holiwell my great-grand-mother's brother." He also says that his grandmother went to live at Gop after being widowed. This would be Elizabeth Mathews/Matthews of Plasy yn Llysfaen who married Robert Hughes (grandson of the above John Hughes) in 1813.

Elizabeth's father was John Mathews of Plas yn Llysfaen, 'previously of Newmarket.' There is a marriage of a John Mathews to Elizabeth Davies on 11th July 1785 in Trelawnyd, and this couple have a daughter, Elizabeth, born 6th November 1786 in Trelawnyd (thanks to member taidgazacaz for the info).

Does anyone know of any Wynne-Steeple-Matthews connections? I can't get the Steeples of Holywell to fit at the moment...

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Denbighshire / Re: STEEPLE in Ruthin around 1700
« on: Sunday 22 May 16 17:00 BST (UK)  »
Dear Jill,

Thank you so much. The surname list is amazing. I'm going to ask a related Wynne/Mathews question over in the Flintshire forum because I think it belongs over there now!

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Devon / Re: Mary Sawle of Totnes and/or Penrice
« on: Wednesday 06 April 16 21:25 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks, DOB7. Fascinating. I wonder what the cause was in this case...

And thanks for the additional info! That changes things a bit. I'll check it out.

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Devon / Re: Mary Sawle of Totnes and/or Penrice
« on: Wednesday 06 April 16 21:10 BST (UK)  »
At the risk of boring everybody rigid, I can't find any birth records for Mary HEARLE/HEARL in Cornwall, let alone Liskeard, but Mary, daughter of Francis and Grace SAWLE, was baptised in St Mary-le-Strand, London, November 30th 1713. Those are the right Sawles: Francis is usually described as "of Westminster."

I'm totally ignorant of marriage licenses. If it IS my Mary and Roger getting married by license in Liskeard in 1736, would it be probable for such a big mistake to be made on a licence (changing Sawle to Hearle)? And why would you choose a licence over banns?  Hope this isn't too basic...

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Devon / Re: Mary Sawle of Totnes and/or Penrice
« on: Wednesday 06 April 16 17:25 BST (UK)  »
Brilliant - thanks, DOB7.

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Devon / Re: Mary Sawle of Totnes and/or Penrice
« on: Wednesday 06 April 16 16:03 BST (UK)  »
DOB7,

Thanks for your input re HEALE/HEARLE. Though I suspect that's the marriage I'm looking for, I'm tempted by the Carew angle. With your connection to the Online Parish Clerks project, can you tell me if the marriage records for Exeter St Thomas still exist, and where they are to be found?

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Denbighshire / STEEPLE in Ruthin around 1700
« on: Tuesday 05 April 16 14:58 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for STEEPLE who married John HUGHES (1661-1738) of Ruthin. I can't find anything at all. There are Steeples in Flintshire - Bagilit and Holywell - at roughly this time but not in Denbighshire. The only thing I have to go on is a mention in a letter of some connection with the WYNNE family of Gop in Trelawnyd: an item passed down, possibly a painting, from Steeple to Wynne, but that's as much as I've got.

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