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I've just been given a possible clue regarding my missing Elisabeth KOSSATZ...  It concerns the death in South Africa  of Elizabeth, wife of the late William Frederick ZIMMERMANN (nee KOSSATZ) 18 Nov 1891, born in Germany/Prussia Feb 1845. My Elisabeth may not have come to NZ at all, or came and returned shortly after! How can I go about finding if the Zimmermanns were already married when they emigrated to South Africa (thus proving this isn't my Elisabeth), or where and when they did marry (and see if the dates are a possible fit). As I mentioned earlier, the Departing Passenger List when the 'ALFRED' left SA for NZ did not include Elisabeth, but the Passenger Arrival List here DID! So there was always some doubt.
Any suggestions how to proceed would be welcome!

Hi all - I was beginning to think 'my' John Huet BATES must have been a BIGAMIST!
When Hannah died in NZ in 1894, her Death Cert (only recently discovered) stated her parents were 'John and Hannah (nee Hodge) BATES of London', and this tied in with the info kindly provided by you marvellous RootsChat detectives. Thank you one and all.

Dylan - sorry we don't seem to be related, and good luck to you in rewriting your family history.

Just as an aside, I found Hannah's gravesite (in a very sad state of disrepair) in the old Inangahua Junction cemetery in NZ's South Island where Hannah and her husband Henry LLOYD ran the Junction Hotel, and have had it restored to it's former glory. It is quite an ornate affair. So many of my ancestors lie in unmarked graves, and finding one actually marked but in such a parlous state I just couldn't leave it abandoned and uncaredfor.

Gosh Ray! Thanks so much! ...but I don't know how/where to find your trees. I'm not that all computer-savvy! Perhaps you could email them direct to me at ^(*) ? or even just the instructions for me to follow?
Best regards,
Lloyd
(According to my info, Frederick James was the only child born in South Africa - their second, Ellen Eliza, and the other six, were all born here.)

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Hi Graham - The good ship 'Gertrude' sailed from Gravesend 1 Nov 1862 with heaps of Robinsons on board. However, the only matches with ‘my’ Robinsons were Father William, Emma (26), and Matthew William (12). They arrived in Auckland NZ 9 Jan 1863.

It would have been William’s intention to get himself established and create a home for the family before sending for the rest of them.

So it came to pass that mother Eleanor, John William (19), Robert Henry (10), Eleanor 17), Dorothy Jane (15), and Hannah Maria (11), boarded the 'John Duncan' in Gravesend on 8 Oct 1863 and sailed to Auckland - arriving 23 Jan 1864. They settled in Takapuna.
In 1872 Hannah married Charles GLEESON and they moved to Huntly (establishing Gleesons Bakery). Hannah died in 1894 leaving Charles with 7 children - the youngest age 5. She is buried in Huntly Cemetery - the exact location unknown.