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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Monday 24 April 17 07:10 BST (UK)  »

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Friday 21 April 17 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Its all set up with just myself and my dad as members. Unfortunately my 4 year old then starting demanding lunch  ;D xx

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Friday 21 April 17 10:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi sue

Facebook would be a good idea. I have seen family tree websites but facebook would be more private i guess.

I can easily set that up now. Next time you're on try searching for smeed family tree and I will try and get as much on there before my youngest wakes up from his nap 😀

Lynn are you on facebook to join us?

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Sunday 16 April 17 20:05 BST (UK)  »
My mother has always kept a gold link bracelet that belonged to my grandmother (but was never worn)and wondered why the initials on it were JLS and AB.
John Lancelot Smeed and Agnes Baigrie. It has a date on it- 10-09-1918. Probably their wedding date. He must have come home to England to get married and then went back to the front. He was killed 28-09-1918, just 18 days later. My grandmother travelled to France by herself in June 1919 to find the graves of her brother William Baigrie and Grandpa's brother Jack (Uncle Jack) but now we know he was her first husband. She wrote some notes about this journey in 1977 just after Grandpa died but referred to Jack only as "Bern's brother". We used those notes and a map to locate the cemeteries and visited them last year. Very sad.

Hi janet (sorry i have assumed lynn in the past because of your username!).

That was indeed their wedding date. The whole situation is very sad x

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Friday 14 April 17 21:21 BST (UK)  »
Lynn this information has been so helpful! Thank you so much. Are you on ancestry? If so feel free to get in touch and you can see the family tree that I have been working on. I am Charlotte_Shepherd64

I'm sat putting you all into the tree now to see how many times removed we are as cousins  ;D ;D

Edit: We are second cousins once removed :)

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Friday 14 April 17 13:37 BST (UK)  »
I really do not know anything about the English family other than that the Smeeds were originally German. Grandpa used to tell me about his great aunt Ann (his grandfather's sister) who spoke only German and kept the turkeys on the family farm.  My grandparents didn't really speak of the English family in East Grinstead and my mother never knew much or heard from her Smeed grandparents or relatives. I did hear that my grandfather's mother (who I was told was French) did not like my grandmother (Agnes) which now makes sense if Agnes was married to Jack and then married Bernard when Jack was killed at the Bourlon Wood in the last 100 days of WWI. I only found out that Albert existed a few weeks ago and knew nothing of any other siblings until I was on this website (while waiting for my plane). But many things make sense, the estrangement from family and staying in Canada, the difference in ages of my grandparents and the almost total silence about the past. What is your connection to the Smeed family?

Hi lynn
Bernard was my 2nd great uncle because his and Ralph's sister Clarice was my paternal great grandmother.

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Friday 14 April 17 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Oh wow Lynn its nice to (kinda) meet you! Did you know much about Bernard's family in England? If you wouldn't mind sharing your photos they would be very interesting to see.

Charlotte x

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Wednesday 02 November 16 21:24 GMT (UK)  »
I have found the marriage of Bernard William Smeed to his brothers widow, Agnes Smeed.   As already mentioned, it was illegal to marry your brother/sister in law and Bernard did not marry with the name of Smeed, and gave ficticious parents:

Bernard Williams, salesman, 26, and Agnes Smeed, 28, widow married in Toronto, York Co., Ontario on 17th January 1922.   He gives his parents as Frank Williams and Mary Smith!!   (His brother John had married Agnes Baigrie Sept.qtr.1918 East Grinstead and had died soon after).  Agnes' remarriage to Bernard shows her parents as William Baigrie and Rebecca Dickson!

suemay - the 'Bernard' who died in Sussex was an Edward Bernard Smeed who was born 22/11/1895 Southwark, London and died Dec.1976 Hastings, Sussex.   (Bernard William Smeed also born 1895 but on 3/10/1895). 

Annette

...and just like that you guys have reignited my enthusiasm for the search!
I officially love this website  ;D

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Looking for Bernard William Smeed
« on: Wednesday 02 November 16 21:23 GMT (UK)  »
Bernard was my grt uncle.  My grandfather Ralph Smeed did not talk much about his family to my mum.  I think he left behind a lot of pain when he came to Newcastle.  Many family skeletons in closet!  I have done a little research and really believe that Bernard and Agnes got married. In Canada at that time is was against the law to marry yr siblings widow.  It is too much of a coincidence to believe anything else. I seen something somewhere that Bernard died in Sussex but they may have wrong guy.   

Hi Suemay,

I didn't know Ralph ended up in Newcastle so thank you for that!
Bernard was my 2nd great uncle because his and Ralph's sister Clarice was my great grandmother. It would be interesting to compare trees.

Kind regards,
Charlotte

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