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I think I've done all the research I can for now, so I thought it a good time to summarise my findings. I'm looking for the origins of Edmund Dugoe who died in 1715 in Amport and had eight children from 1675 onwards, seven in Amport.

It's worth keeping in mind that the name Dugoe is uncommon so there won't be many households/families at any one time.

The 1637 will of Salathiel Dugoe in Appleshaw (Amport) names three brothers, Thomas, Edward, and John. One of these four brothers is likely to be the father of Edmund.

Thomas (born 1591) lived with his wife Dorothy in Ludgershall Wiltshire. They had several children one called Edmund born in 1621. This seems to be too early to be my Edmund - he would have had his first child at the age of 54, and died at age 94. Possible but not very likely. 

Edward lived in Shipton Bellinger with his wife Margery. They had a daughter Marjorie mentioned in Edward's 1641 will. If they are the parents of Edmund why wasn't he mentioned in the will?

John lived in Collingbourne Kingston, Wiltshire with his wife Priscilla. In his 1675 will he mentions a daughter Rose. They also had a daughter Jane. Again it seems unlikely that John is the father of Edmund.

Salathiel was married to Jane. They seem to be the most likely parents of Edmund, who would have been born around 1638 or earlier.  But the lack of parish registers for Amport earlier than 1665 means that we have no proof.  Amport is where Edmund lived all his life. If Edmund was born in 1638 he would have been aged 37 when his first child was born, and 77 when he died. 

So for now my working assumption is that Salathiel and Jane are Edmund's parents.

Widow Dugoe of Amport is the only Dugoe household in the 1665 Hampshire hearth tax - and I think it's Jane.

Thanks to everyone for ideas and suggestions. I am much further forward now than at the start.
Martin

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Here's Thomas Dugoe family.

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Hello Vance

Yes that's what I thought. I've identified a lot of their children as well. I'm pretty confident this is the Thomas, brother of Salathiel in 1637. Helpfully from the marriage licence we have his age 28 - so born about 1591.

Thanks

Martin


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I presume you realise Edward/Edmund are often inter-changeable christian names?

Trish :)

Hi Trish - yes indeed. The baptisms of Edmund's children - some have Edmund, some have Edward. I'm keeping an open mind to the possibility that any Edward could be my Edmund.

Thanks

Martin

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Hello Vance

Yes that is exactly the way I'm thinking just now. I'm in the process of putting everyone with the Dugoe name into a tree (Family Tree Maker), to see how it might fit together. Thomas Dugoe from Ludgershall is the head of the family I mentioned in my original post. I find that it can take a lot of time just looking and thinking about the people and possible relationships. And yet when you see a possible connection (like the will of Edward - and he is mentioned in the will of Salathiel) it looks blindingly obvious, and you wonder why you never saw it before.

I've avoided going too far away geographically from my original area around Amport which is why I've not looked at the Durrington records. I think I will now on the basis of leaving no stone unturned.

I didn't mention in my original post why I'm interested in this line. Edmund Dugoe is my 7xGGrandfather.

Thanks

Martin

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And the other will of Salathiel Dugoe (1637) mentions his brother Edward and Edward's daughter Marjorie. It must surely be the same Edward/Marjorie in both wills.

Martin

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Did the will of Edward Dugoe of Shipton Bellinger not mention Edmund?

That 1641 probate mentions his wife Marjorie and daughter Marjorie. I have found a marriage in 1622 in Collingbourne Kingston Wiltshire (7 miles away) between Edward Dugoe and Margery Guy. That could be them.

Martin

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Here are some records of a John Dugoe (possibly two individuals), of Collingbourne Kingston, about 12 miles from Amport.


Hello Vance

I've seen parish records for Dugoe in Collingbourne Kingston, but so far not found a link back from Edmund. What I'm aiming to do is bring together all of the records I can see for Dugoe in this area of Hampshire and Wiltshire and see if I can link them into families.

Thanks for your ideas.

Martin

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Does the burial of Edmund in 1715 give his age?  By using 1650, you are ruling out the chance that his mother was Jane, the one who had lived and remained as a widow in Amport.  Her husband had died long before 1650.  His will raises the possibility that she was with child then; if she was, the child could have been Edmund, presumably?

No, there's no age on the burial. But that's an interesting thought. The will we are talking about was 1637 so Edmund could well have been born about then or earlier. But there seems to be no parish records for Amport earlier than 1665 so this may well have to remain as speculation.

Thanks for your help

Martin

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