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Thank you again Valda, 

Food for thought. . . . 

I think you are right & that the second Anne, Annie from Coventry is most probably her. 
It is just wishfull thinking on our part as we would love to find her family. 

I do think her father's name as mentioned on the marriage certificate would be correct & is John.  No details re her parnets unfortunately were mentioned on her death certificate. 

Mentioned on a couple of her children's  birth certificates she is called Annie  (Maiden name Bradbury). & comes from Birmingham, England & Coventry England. 

Thank you again very much for your time & effort. 

Cheers, Dye.       

Thank you very much Valda for your time & effort.  It is greatly appreciated.     

We recently came across the family mentioned in the 1861 & 1871 census & at first were very excited.  It all did seem to fit except for her Father's name.  I wonder if we will ever know for sure.      

It is an interesting story. 
 Annie's  husband who was my Mother's Grandfather actually changed his name.  Our original researchers  did an incredible job working all of this out with the aid of a researcher from the Isle of Krk.    


FREDERICK RODERICK: (1858-1943) Austria, a sailor, * "Fred came from Baska on the Island of Krk in Dalmatia."  He deserted from the Austrian Navy and first went to New York and from there to Port Adelaide, Australia." 

* "Fred possibly changed his name from RODE: to RODERICK: 
MATEA RODE gave birth to a boy child in the church records at Baska.
Fred ? claims that he was born on the 24 Dec 1858 and the only birth on that day was of one Dirolamo KOS:  father  Dordo KOS : mother Matea  RODE: 
Is this our man Dye ?Too much of a coincidence, open for comment. "

We think this may be our Ann/Anne/Annie & family though there is a discrepancy - with her Father's name recorded on her marriage certificate as John.
Note the first son of William Bradley & Ann was called William John. . . .

Their address was recorded as Stoney Stanton Rd, Foleshill. Civil Parish, Foleshill.

When they settled on their farm in Victoria they named it Stony Knob. (I am not sure of this spelling). This is quite a coincidence.

Her Granddaughter commented on  her name as being spelt Anne as she was often referred to as Annie. When they signed their marriage certificate they both signed with a cross.


This leads to another discrepancy in the marriage certificate where her name is written as Braddury. If Ann could not write her name perhaps the person recording wrote it incorrectly. She could not read to see the error. When the spelling of her name was commented on by her Granddaughter she received a very terse reply.

Frederick's Father was recorded as George Roderick but as he had changed his name this was probably just made up. Perhaps George was the equivalent of his father's name in English.  I don't think there is any mention of her father's occupation but will ask Brian & Pam.

Thank you again for your time & effort.  It is greatly appreciated.

If you are interested in reading more re this family we have a web page.  You are welcome to visit at http://www.webace.com.au/~tblack Follow the Crawford link to Roderick.

Rootschat is a wonderful site & it is so good to be able to chat to someone who has knowledge & is closer to the source.

Best wishes, Dye.

Third reply today. . . . . .   

I'm still digesting all you have given me.  Yes I have come across the IGI record for Samuel Crawford married to Elizabeth Curry. I have yet to prove or find the source.

We have a bit of a discrepancy here as on the death certificate of Francis Ferguson Crawford his mother is mentioned as Elizabeth Crothers.  Of course I am assumng they were brothers.  It is thought they might be brothers but not yet proven.


On David Crawford's marriage certificate his Father is recorded as Samuel Crawford, Farmer. The marriage took place at Parkgate in the Parish of Donegore in the County of Antrim, Northern Ireland.

David Crawford: Son of Samuel: arrived per "Escort" 20 Dec 1860 with his wife Mary & baby daughter Mary.

On David Crawford's death certificate, his Father is recorded as Samuel Crawford & Mother Elizabeth. David is recorded as born in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

On Francis Ferguson Crawford's death certificate, - his Father is recorded as Samuel James CRAWFORD: Mother Elizabeth CROTHERS.

In IGI records using Family search of Francis Ferguson Crawford: his Mother is recorded as Elizabeth CURRY:

All for for thought.

Thanks again.

Bye from Dye.     

Hello again Scotsmum,

You say you are no "expert" but you have certainly been most helpful. Your "expertise" no doubt obtained through your own research & experiences being used to help others not quite so familiar with this area is much appreciated.  I'm sure others may be learning from your replies as well:)   

 I was most interested in the link to the maps sites.  The first one worked well (unfortunately the second didn't.)  With some juggling I may get it to work as I went to the original map & can see how you can hone in. Nevertheless I now have a much better idea of the area in which they may have lived.  I had previously downloaded general maps on Antrim but not in this amount of detail. 

I will certainly take not of the names you have come up with  & add them to my research records.  One never knows one day it may all tie in.

A few days ago  I had someone email me about their  David Crawford born  07 Sep 1839 in Tobergill to a Adam Crawford  & Margaret Charters.  Unfortunately the parents don't fit but for a moment I thought I might have found him. I see Tobergill is also within the same area. 

My David Crawford & Mary Finlay were married in the Church of Donegore according to the Form & Discipline of the Presbyterian Church, by License by me (the signed name looks like several initials then Gillespie.)  There is a short word between Church & Donegore. It could be 1st or Isl.

For any interested in my Crawford's you are welcome to visit my  genealogy web site @ http://www.webace.com.au/~tblack Follow the Crawford link. 

I am intrigued with all the Irish names beginning with Bally.  Do you know what this stands for? (Town of . . . ) 

Thank you again for your interest & time especially as I see you are a very busy Mother.
Cheers, Dye.       

Thank you very much for your time & effort.     

I too have looked previously when on line but not found them.    They must have been there but using the only clues we have  nothing is falling into place.    I know they existed as they have hundreds of descendants.  I know they came from Antrim but it is a big place.

I guess I will just have to be happy with going back as far as I have.    

I will check out your two suggestions & let you know if anything turns up.

My other thought  is I wonder  how complete the 1851 Census is?

Thank you again.

Best wishes, Dye.