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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
« on: Saturday 20 December 08 20:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Penelope

I'm grateful that you took the trouble to reply and I'm sorry to have taken so long to pick up your reply. The Rootschat emails come to an email address which isn't my usual one and I haven't looked at it for some while. It must have been a sixth sense that made me check it tonight.

The Thompson family at Wistow is, in fact, part of my wife's family and I'll quote  what I have written about them. You are probably better qualified to say whether there is a relationship

"In 1841 Charles Thompson, born in 1794, was an agricultural labourer in Wistow, a village 2 miles from Cawood, 3 miles north of Selby, and 12 from York.
A Thompson family can be found in Wistow back to John Thompson born about 1710. At the time of the 1841 census there were two Charles Thompsons. One was a farmer but the one we are concerned with was an agricultural labourer.
He was married to Sarah (Marshall) and they lived in the area known as Wistow Common together with their children Deborah  8, Elizabeth,12, Hannah, 2, John, 10, Joseph, 6, and Mary, 4. They had at least two other sons, George, 15, and Thomas, 13. They were living with their grandmother, Margaret Marshall, 70, on the farm of James Backhouse, perhaps an uncle on their mother’s side. Also living there was Charles Thompson, 20. Clearly the Wistow Thompsons are many and complicated to unravel.
Sarah appears to have died in 1847 or 1848 and in 1851 George and Thomas  had come home to live with Charles and his daughter Mary, now called Maria. She married Thomas  Hembrough in 1860 and died in 1878.
By 1861 Charles was living alone at 65 Whisker Lane, Wistow declaring himself to be a farmer of one acre. George and Thomas had moved out and were boarding with Brian Raper and his wife, Ellen, who might have been their sister, at Wistow Lane, Cawood.
Ten years later Thomas was married to a 28 year old wife. Progressing from the 1851 census he should have been 46 years old but admits only to 41. In the next ten years he only ages another seven.
George, who was a wood-man, had also married by 1871. He and his wife, however, had no children. Both men were widowers but still alive in 1901.
Charles, their father, featured in no more censuses having died in the first months of 1871.
Our main concern, however, should be with Charles and Sarah’s daughter, Elizabeth. She too left home and by 1851, at age 21, she is forty miles away from her father and working as a house servant in Ornhams House, Aldborough, the home of George Crow, a “Landed Proprietor”, and his brother Edmund, who farmed 470 acres with 11 labourers. Both were unmarried and had their 30 year old niece as a housekeeper. Elizabeth did not stay with them much longer and in 1854 she married George Pick in Leeds on December 4th. "

Sorry it's so long but it's my full picture of the Wistow Thompsons. Any amplification that you can provide will be more than welcome.

Regards

Jack   

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal artillery records 1851 - 1880
« on: Tuesday 29 January 08 23:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks very much for your advice Ken.

It was kind of you to reply.

I'll follow it up along the lines you suggest - I'm afraid Kew's a long way from where I am so it'll be the other route.

Thanks again

Jack

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Armed Forces / Royal artillery records 1851 - 1880
« on: Tuesday 29 January 08 13:30 GMT (UK)  »
Does any one have access to the RA records for the above period please?
I am looking for service records for William Barker who was born in Kirby Knowle, Thirsk, Yorkshire in 1826.
He is in the 1861 census listed amongst the other 4750 members of the RA (with a birthplace of Thirsk, Yorkshire)  but not visible in 1851 or 1871. He reappears again as a civilian in 1881.
Many thanks in advance for any help

Jackspratt

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census Potts Cramlington
« on: Sunday 24 December 06 16:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Michael

I think I might leave this until after Christmas to sort out lest I, too, might lose it.

I'm grateful for your help.

I hope you have a nice Christmas and that the New Year brings you good fortune.

Jack

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Completed Census Requests / Re: Lamesley, Co. Durham 1861, 1871 censuses
« on: Saturday 11 November 06 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Pels

I'm constantly amazed and gratified by the amount of personal inconvenience and time that Rootschat members are willing to give to other people who are unknown to  them. And the speed of their response is beyond belief.

I'm most obliged to you - thank you very much

Jack

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Completed Census Requests / Lamesley, Co. Durham 1861, 1871 censuses
« on: Saturday 11 November 06 20:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

I wonder if anyone could find the above census entries for William Turnbull and his family for me please and let me have the details.

William would be about 30 in 1861 and possibly lived in Lamesley with his wife Isabella who would be about 28.

I don't know their family in 1861 but in 1871 it would include 6 years old Martha, Isabella 3 and Sarah about one year old.

If 1891 as well isn't asking too much that would be nice too.

Many thanks in advance.

Jackspratt

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census Potts Cramlington
« on: Saturday 04 November 06 15:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Michael

I dare say you hoped you'd seen the last of the Johnsons but if I may I'd like to refer to you just once more.

You suggested in your reply of 30th Sept. that indications in a later census suggested that John could be the illegitimate child of Sarah.

I wonder if you would mind letting me have the details of that census?

Is it possible you have 1871 census details available for John and Martha or had they left the scene by then?

I'm having problems taking Johnsons further back than 1799 John. Despite his saying he was born in Washington there doesn't appear to be any record of this though there was a presence of Johnsons there for a lot of years previously. So I'd like to flesh out his family as much as I can though even they too are proving elusive.

His wife's family, the Pattersons and Forrests are a bit more accessible. There's an interesting source on Ulgham (which you might have already seen of course). It's at http://ulgham.tripod.com/ulgen/ulgenPQ.htm 

Many thanks

Jack 

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census Potts Cramlington
« on: Tuesday 03 October 06 20:49 BST (UK)  »
Hello Michael

The Martha Patterson we're looking for appears to be the one in the IGI christened b. 1 Feb 1797 christened 13 Feb 1797 at Ulgham daughter of JNO. Patterson and ISABLE.

John says he was born in Washington but I can't find him there yet. I have a Durham contact who goes to the record office fairly frequently. Do you think I dare ask him to look knowing what you've been through?

Jack

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census Potts Cramlington
« on: Monday 02 October 06 22:57 BST (UK)  »
You should be doing it professionally - I'll give you a reference.

There's money in it, you know.

Nick Barret? An amateur by comparison.

Jack

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