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The Common Room / Re: 1939 register help with schedule sub numbers
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 17:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all the info - so I think now I can say that there may be others that are closed, or there may be some other reason but I will not really know until like you say 2040 or entries cross the 100 year mark. There does appear to be handwriting on at least 2 of the lines yes, I do have names of other siblings so it could be them but it was the numbering that had confused me as it did not match with the order of their dates of births and all other entries seem to be consistent from oldest to youngest.

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 register help with schedule sub numbers
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 13:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi thank you for your reply.

All other entries on the page appeared to look as they should, except for the household below "mine". I have now looked into the household below and found that all household members transcribed were there on the original image so the redacted lines are a mistake somehow.
I then logged out of the site and searched the 1939 register for both my household and the neighbours and found it told me that in my household one person is officially closed. (same with the neighbours- they were 4 in the household not 7 like the lines might make you think).

So I think I can feel pretty confident that they are not 3 other people that I should be looking for.
I think it is worrying that when I am logged in with my subscription the transcription states that there are 6 people in a household but when you preview it without logging in you are getting more information as it tells me that one more person is closed.

I will report the issue to findmypast anyway. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

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The Common Room / 1939 register help with schedule sub numbers
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 11:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I am confused by what I am seeing on the 1939 register. Usually I have noticed that if you preview a record it will tell you how many records are closed in that household. In this instance it doesnt seem to mention that any records are closed but on the enumeration schedule there clearly are closed records. (it may be because I have unlocked the household). I cannot work out how many people in the household are closed. I have attached a snip of the image below to help to explain. By counting the black horizontal lines I would say 4, however the schedule sub-number just does not seem to add up and I cannot work out what is going on. The bottom person has a sub-schedule of 7 on the original image but on the transcription it is recorded as 10. Any advice appreciated.

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Lincolnshire / Re: charles collingwood
« on: Thursday 22 December 16 10:25 GMT (UK)  »
Ah good spot Jomot. I must remember to be wary of any ages of death below 24 on the gro. With the info Jomot has provided re children's names I would feel confident that the Charles in Canada is your man. Good luck with the rest of your search.

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Lincolnshire / Re: charles collingwood
« on: Wednesday 21 December 16 23:41 GMT (UK)  »
I have had a little look this evening, nice to have a little break from my own tree. I did find a death for a Charles Collingwood;
COLLINGWOOD, CHARLES       14     
GRO Reference: 1843  S Quarter in CAISTOR UNION  Volume 14  Page 179
The age fits with birth being in 1828/9.
Do you know that he did definitely go to Canada?
I couldn't find anything on a passenger list, although Charles in Canada must be on one somewhere.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Unusual First Names
« on: Wednesday 21 December 16 18:57 GMT (UK)  »
I have come across a Christmas Johnston recently whilst searching the gro index!

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It is possible that somebody else filled the forms out for them and misheard. They may not have been able to read of write. As there is no Smithfield in Northumberland, there are several Drysdales residing in Spittal, which was Berwick-upon-Tweed registration district, in various censuses, I'd say Spittal would be a good line of enquiry to follow. The 1911 census posted before May be a son or relative of the family, I haven't looked to see how he fits in but I would say that as is name is James Wood Drysdale it is likely that he is related to your Margaret and James, and his birth place is also Spittal.

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HI, In my opinion it looks like a case of the enumerator hearing what was said incorrectly and it should say Spittal. I think that Spittal could fairly easily be heard as Smithfield in a strong enough accent, I also found this 1911 census;
   
James Wood Drysdale
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name   James Wood Drysdale
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1911
County   Northumberland
Parish   Ashington
Sub-District   Ashington
Registration District   Morpeth
Gender   Male
Age   59
Birthplace   Spittal, Northumberland
Record Type   Ho Household

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It does seem to add many more questions rather than any quick answers when they are illegitimate. An interesting and sad story LizzieW, it's a shame you have not been able to trace the other child.
I think in my case if there was one I am looking at a 5 year period before she got married. I will look further into criminal records seen as she doesn't seem to be involved in bringing her daughter up but have been led to belief that this line of the family were doing alright back then, still who knows.

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