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Ayrshire / Re: Researching William Closs and Sarah Printer Closs, Kirkoswald
« on: Sunday 18 June 23 23:56 BST (UK)  »
Hello everyone... I am back, and hope everyone made it through COVID OK.  I just decided to dive back into my Family Tree again after several years away.. and I just wanted to ask, does anyone had any new info on William Closs and Sarah Printer since our last conversation in 2016 ??
 

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Ayrshire / Re: Researching William Closs and Sarah Printer Closs, Kirkoswald
« on: Tuesday 07 June 16 01:33 BST (UK)  »
I checked the 1850 and 1860 U.S. Census.  The 1850 estimates him at 55 years old, and the 1860 estimates him at 60 years old.

But both list his place of birth as Scotland, and Sarah as Ireland.
I know during that period there was a lot of migration back and forth between Scotland and Ireland, so I imagine that he could have been born in either place...and met Sarah either in Ireland, or in Scotland....

I had a similar problem many years ago with a Great Great Grandfather on my mother's side in the U.S.   U.S. Census listed him as being born in one state, and the LDS records another.. I wasn't sure if it was the same person... eventually I found his grave stone, did a rubbing, and figured out they were the same individual. His family had migrated from one state to the next and back.. the census just recorded where he was living at the time, not where he was actually born...  That one took me years to resolve.

I know of two distant cousins that live not too far from the Cemetery where he is buried.  I'll see if one of them can do a rubbing.  But I fear we will need Parish records to find out for certain.




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Ayrshire / Re: Researching William Closs and Sarah Printer Closs, Kirkoswald
« on: Monday 06 June 16 20:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you.  I just tried the FreeCen website.  It says that William and Sarah were both born in Ireland, and that William is 40 years old.

However William's Gravestone says he was 80 years old at the time of his death in 1872.  That would make his year of birth 1792.  FamilySearch.org does put Sarah's birth at 1801 in Ireland, and her grave information seems to agree with that.

I have to be suspicious of Ireland as his place of birth when the census records a 9 year discrepancy in  his age.


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Ayrshire / Re: Researching William Closs and Sarah Printer Closs, Kirkoswald
« on: Monday 06 June 16 19:47 BST (UK)  »
Yes,

The entire family migrated to the United States in 1849.  So there weren't any earlier census before 1841 and they left before the next census.  FamilySearch.org has in their index records of the births of several of their children, but I get no real information from that.

One report says William was born in Scotland, one in Ireland, and another in England.  Unfortunately I live in Trinidad & Tobago, so my resources are more limited than most.  I think the only way I'm going to find out anything will be from Parish records, because I don't believe they did anything notable.  In the U.S. they were William and his sons were coal miners. 

I did a search in the FindAGrave.com website for CLOSS in the Kirkoswald Parish Cemetery, but nothing turned up, so I don't think William's family was from there.

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Ayrshire / Researching William Closs and Sarah Printer Closs, Kirkoswald
« on: Monday 06 June 16 04:03 BST (UK)  »
I have traced my family back to Kirkoswald.  William Closs (b: 1792) and Wife Sarah Printer (b:1801) according to the 1841 census lived in Cozie Glen, Kirkoswald.  They had many children: John, Rebecca, David, James, etc... but I have not been able to locate any information about William or Sarah's marriage, or birth.  Its like they just appeared out of the ground.

BTW, there is a lot of conflicting information about William.. Several people think he was born in 1801, but his gravestone says he died 1872 at 80 years of age.  I believe it was Sarah born 1801.. I suspect in Ireland but that's unconfirmed.

Any information about either of them would be greatly appreciated... I have been banging my head on a wall for years on this.

Thanks.

David R.

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