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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Tuesday 03 September 24 13:26 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I agree but probably not so unusual in New York back in those days. Malaria, too, was common. The sad thing is that, as you say, Angus was so far from home.  It's a pity New York state didn't have death certs showing who the informant was. Perhaps it was a family member, or perhaps a local contact.
I'm sending my account of what is known so far about Angus to your home email address.

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Thursday 22 August 24 14:00 BST (UK)  »
A kind person at the Society of Genealogists got a copy of the original death record of Angus Gunn, attached (I hope). As you'll see, the cause of death is bilious remittent fever. He's buried at Trinity Cemetery. I contacted them but they tell me that though they have a record of his burial, they have no record of the location, which means there is no headstone. Sad.

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Saturday 15 June 24 16:07 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately I can't bask in the glory of the find. The glory really goes to my second cousin once removed Rachel Palmer, the great granddaughter of Emma Sophia Catmur (born Gunn), the sister of your and my Ann Dodson Matthews (born Gunn). She found the newspaper cutting of Mary's marriage. And then I found the actual death record. Yes, you're  right that Angus isn't marked as deceased on George Gunn's marriage cert to Emma Sophia Gunn (born Greenhalgh). He presumably went out to America as part of his dealings in indigo. He was a commission agent on the 1841 census; agent for indigo? That part of the story still needs to be researched. Rachel by the way is your third cousin once removed.

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Friday 14 June 24 20:42 BST (UK)  »
We have now finally tracked down Angus Gunn's death - in New York in 1846. He is entered on his daughter Mary's marriage record to John Mitchell in 1855 as an indigo manufacturer resident in Harlem, deceased. A search of New York City Municipal Deaths 1795-1949 reveals the following:
 Name: Angus Gunn  Sex: Male  Age: 60  Birth Year (Estimated): 1786
Birthplace: Scotland  Residence: New York, N.Y.  Address 122nd Street  Event Type: Death  Date: 12 Jul 1846  Place: Manhattan, New York County, New York. Certificate No. Bk15  Cemetery: Trinity
122nd Street is in Harlem.
That his occupation in America was indigo manufacturer is not so surprising as we've always known he had some kind of connection with it. Presumably that was why he moved down to Lancashire.  His son George married Emma Sophia Greenhalgh, whose father was a calico printer. Indigo is used in calico printing.

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Tuesday 28 February 23 18:20 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure of anything! Warehouseman looks like a good possibility.

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Tuesday 28 February 23 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hmm I can see how you got that but as you say 'not convinced'. I think the Rail part is right because he worked for the railways all his life.  But after that it gets a bit difficult, doesn't it?

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Monday 09 January 23 12:43 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I agree about Ancestry, also about the age of George Gunn. The 1841 census has done even more drastic rounding down than usual: I have George born in 1820 (sister Jane in 1818 and sister Mary in 1823). While on the subject of George, can you read his occupation on the 1841 census? Is it Rail something?
Julie, what is your own email address?

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Ayrshire / Re: Chief Constable of Ayr - Help needed!
« on: Sunday 08 January 23 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
I'm joining this conversation a bit late but better late than never, as I've found Angus (my great-great grandfather) in the 1841 census for Eccles, Lancashire, where he's living with his son George, daughters Mary and Jane and the mystery Christina Drennan at Wallness Cottage, Eccles, Salford, Lancashire. Still, the big question remains - where and when did he die? 

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