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It's possible Joan died in 2014, there is a possible probate record for her.


GARDNER   JOAN   1 March 2014   2 July 2014      PROBATE   Liverpool

Can anyone see Joan after Fredrick's death, did she remarry or die?

We know Joan Grimshaw was alive in 1949 when her father died, can anyone find her after that?

I have struggled to find her.

I have put this in The Common Room as I have no idea where these 3 people went, could be anywhere.

Thomas Cross was born in Steeple Claydon Buckinghamshire on 12th September 1857 the youngest child of William Cross and his wife Maria Jennings.
Thomas didn't marry young he lived at home with his parents ( and mother after his father died ) and elder brother William.

Maria Cross died on 30th November 1899 leaving William and Thomas on their own.
William married on 7th April 1890, I know everything about him from that time ( he was my grandfather ).

On the 1891 census Thomas was living at the George and Dragon Kendal as an Ostler / Groom.
In 1895 Thomas married Mary Caley, she gave birth to a son Thomas ( John Thomas ) in 1897, she died in 1898.

Thomas remarried to Margaret Ann Dobson in 1899 and she gave birth to 2 children Ellen Maria in early 1900 and Albert Edward in early 1901.

On the 1901 census the family are living in Levens.

1905 Margaret Ann died.

On the 1911 census the 3 children are living in the children's home attached to Kendal workhouse, I can't find Thomas snr.

Thomas jnr. stays in the Kendal area and can be traced to his death.

On 1921 census Ellen is a live in servant in Sedbergh Yorkshire. That is where  she must have met her future husband Richard Capstick it was his home town.

They married in 1922, a short tragic marriage. Ellen gave birth to 2 children Thomas Richard and Ellen Marie both of them dying as babies.
Richard died on 18th July 1924.

The last time I can find Ellen is on Richard's probate granted in October 1924 admin. granted to Ellen Maria widow value £483 5s 7d.

There is a marriage in 1927 of an Ellen M Capstick to Harry Grimshaw in Lancashire, I think this is a different woman.

Thomas snr. I can't find a death that fits. Albert Edward I can't see for sure after the 1911 census.

Ancestry family trees --------- There is one that has Maria dying in 1884 and Thomas in 1940 in Henley on Thames, I'm sure this has mixed up 2 different families.
There is also one with Ellen showing Richard not dying  until the 1970s, I am not convinced by that one.

So Thomas Cross, Albert Edward Cross an Ellen Maria Capstick what happened to them?

I would say that just because the newspaper report said something it doesn't mean it was true.

Could have been a garbled reply from William Jagger or a reporter's mistake.