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Cheshire / Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« on: Wednesday 29 March 06 20:46 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Celia,
                            Sorry for the delay in answering, the result of crashing my computer and having repairs done I'm afraid. Yes, I have found Joseph, but not at Rake Lane. He is buried in St Hilary's churchyard in Wallasey, about five or six rows down on the right hand side as you go in. It was, I must admit one of the easiest grave hunts I've ever done. The inscription on the grave was not very informative, but it did tell me the date of his death, 1st May 1895. I will just have to get around to purchasing his death certificate now.

Gary

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Cheshire / Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« on: Tuesday 31 January 06 21:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Celia,
                   Thanks for the information and indeed for spending the time looking it up, it was very good of you. Yes, it's a great help. The reference to Joseph as a ships store dealer tallies with what I could (just barely) read on the 1891 census return, though Heath and Co are a mystery to me, so that's another angle to follow up. I suppose he must have given up working for Gibson and Co some time before, though he has always been a rather shadowy figure to track down, so this latest developement does not come as a complete surprise. Whilst in Liverpool I hope to go and examine the Customs Bills of Entry at the Maritime Museum there, if he was a ship's merchant in his later years, as this new info seems to indicate he or his employers may get a mention.

As to his burial, I think I might take a trip to Birkenhead to take a look around and see where he lived and perhaps pop into some of the smaller graveyards to have a look around. Perhaps something of a wild goose chase on my part, but it can be quite pleasant to while away an afternoon in that fashion, especially after going over dusty old documents of a morning.

Anyhow, again, do please except my thanks for your help on this matter. If I do find anything more of interest I'll post it here.

Gary

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Cheshire / Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« on: Monday 30 January 06 16:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Celia,
                  Well, I have looked up Joseph Hancock on the 1891 census. Yes, he did live in Birkenhead, he and his wife and a domestic servant lived at 70 Bridge Street (I think -  the street name is hard to read), but it is the right man, born in 'Steke-on-Trent' (sic), married to Susanna. Having looked up the one Bridge street in Birkenhead, it seems a distance from Wallasey, but parish boundaries can be pretty wide. If he still worked for Andrew Gibson  - a Liverpool firm of shippers - he may well have been in Liverpool on business and died there.

Gary

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Cheshire / Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« on: Sunday 29 January 06 20:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Celia,
                  Thank you for the replies and your generous offer of help. I have to admit that I thought it might be a long shot, but as so many people seem to be investigating relatives in Rake Lane via your thread, I was wondering if by chance anyone had spotted him. A Joseph Hancock, 63 is listed in the deaths for Liverpool in the June quarter of 1895, but I have not yet got around to getting that certificate - I am chasing other people at the moment. But, as I will be going to Liverpool soon, I thought it would be a good opportunity to see if I could find him. I don't know if the GRO 'Liverpool' tag places him in Wallasey, but the story is that he was buried in the village. The parish church was my first thought, but the family were methodists, so my mind turned to Rake Lane, especially as so many of those buried there were old sailors.

I would be very grateful if you could see if you could spot him if it's not too much trouble. Any indication of where he lies would save me a lot of legwork when I am up there. I'm hoping for a fulsome, wordy gravestone if he is there, that will resolve some family ties ... well, I can dream. ;D

Again, many thanks,

Gary

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Cheshire / Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« on: Saturday 28 January 06 15:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,
         I'm new to this site and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they have come across the grave of one Joseph Hancock at the Rake Lane cemetery? He was born in Hanley, Staffordshire in 1832. He was a master mariner and in his later years worked as the long shore superintendant for Andrew Gibson and Co of Liverpool. I believe he died in 1895. I have been told that he lived in Wallasey in his later years, but have no clue as to where he was buried, either at the parish church or the cemetery. I hope to travel up to Liverpool and Birkenhead later in the year, but if anyone has any information I would be very pleased to hear from them.

Gary

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