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Antrim / Crumlin Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church
« on: Sunday 18 September 22 17:46 BST (UK)  »
I emailed Crumlin NSP a few years back to see if they had any old baptismal registers.  I didn't get a response.  Proni has a note in their files to say nothing received from the church.  Has anyone on the forum ever had any contact with the Crumlin NSP church?

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Sunday 28 August 22 18:56 BST (UK)  »
Apologies I have been a bit snowed under with work recently so have not had a chance to respond to original query regarding Fanny Lynn.  I will hunt out certificates and can email them to you if you want them. 

As for Peden's, there are 7 of us on Ancestry who are descendents of the John Snoddy/Eliza Peden line.  We all show a strong connection with a John Peden born 1709 in Broughshane who married a Margaret McDill and emigrated to South Carolina.  We all share a group of dna matches in the 20-30cm range with the descendents of John Peden and Maraget McDill.  We also appear to be linked with a family from Dromore, who ended up in East Belfast.  A look at the occupation listed on the certificates for this family shows a common occupation with the Pedens from Templepatrick - shoemaker.  My guess is the Peden in this line is one of the Templepatrick Pedens. 

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Thursday 07 July 22 20:13 BST (UK)  »
Marriage of Matthew Snoddy and Fanny Lynn was on 29th October 1836. 

The recording of the marriage details in the register is somewhat unusual.  All the other marriages have the parents names stated.  For Fanny Lynn it has John Agnew but there is a letter or a symbol between John and Agnew.  Also the name of the second witness is not clear, it looks like Nathaniel William but both names are abbreviated in the old style.  I am not convinced that Fanny Lynn had been married before.  She used the name Lynn on subsequent registrations in Templepatrick and in Scotland.  Would a widow who may only have been married for a short time continue to use the surname of her deceased husband?  Could it be she acutally is a Lynn? Perhaps her mother never married John Agnew.  I have no further information regarding the Lemon family  I will have to see if I can trace them.

You mentioned a Dan Peden.  Do you have any information about him?  I have been working on the Peden families around Parkgate/Templepatrick area.  In the Templepatrick registers the Pedens are very strongly associated with Mallusk. 

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Monday 04 July 22 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Okay, a wee update.  Managed to get to PRONI to check out Templepatrick census and baptismal/marriage registers. 

Marriage register confirms the parents of Matthew Snoddy were Thomas Snoddy and Jane Agnew.  His residence was Cottonmount.  For Fanny Lynn, only the father's name is stated - John Agnew.  Her residence is stated as Ballycushin.  The witnesses at the marriage were E.D. Wiley and possibly Nathaniel William Campbell.  Residence for Snoddy/Lynn family at various baptisms varies between Cottonmount/Craigarogan/Mallusk.

There are no further details in the Templepatrick census of 1831 regarding the family of Ezekiel Wiley that differ from what was previously mentioned on this thread.  However I did find yet another Fanny Lynn.  The 1857 Templepatrick census has a John Lemon living at Cottonmount, wife Fanny Lynn and the following children - Elizabeth, William, Agnes, Maragaret, John and James.

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Monday 14 February 22 23:21 GMT (UK)  »
I suspect your original tree was correct.  Remember there were 9 baptisms in Templepatrick - 8 gave the mothers maiden name as Lynn.  When her husband registered the children's births in Scotland he used Lynn as her maiden name.  It is only when the children come to register births/deaths/marriages that Wylie starts to appear as the maiden name.  I would also be skeptical about the details on the death registration.  It was completed by the clerk in the poor house most likely from details provided by one of the children.  I can only reiterate in my experience the information contained on the Scottish death registrations for those born in Ireland is often wrong.

Is it not more likely Frances Lynn is the granddaughter of Hugh Wylie?  Is it possible William Lynn's wife was a Wylie?

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Sunday 13 February 22 20:54 GMT (UK)  »
Okay so managed to track down the details of the family of Matthew Snoddy and Frances Lynn in Scotland.  The family didn't disappear after the death of Matthew, they used the surname Sneddon rather than Snoddy. 

Their son James used the surname Sneddon when he married Jane Witherspoon in 1870 at Old Monkland.  On his marriage record his father is stated as Matthew Sneddon, a linen lapper and his mother as Frances Wylie.

William Snoddy used the surname Snedden when he married Helen McAlister in 1873 at Partick.  On his marriage record his father is stated as William Snedden a cloth lapper and his mother as Frances Wylie.

In the 1881 Scottish census Frances Sneddon 60 and Agnes Sneddon 25 are resident in the household of William Sneddon 37 and Helen Sneddon 31 at Govan.  There are no children in the household.

Death of Frances Sneddon on 23/07/1900 at the Poorhouse in Paisley.  Age stated as 80, widow of Matthew Sneddon, a linen lapper.  Father stated as James Wylie, deceased and Frances Wylie maiden name Lynn, also deceased.

And a little bit more from the USA.  James Snoddy son of Thomas Snoddy and Jane Agnew used the surname Snedden at his marriage in Philadelphia.  His witness was Hugh Wiley.  At Hugh Wiley's wedding in the same church in Philadelphia his witness was James Snedden.  Hugh Wiley's first child was named Frances Wiley, the second child Agnes.  At a guess Hugh Wiley is Hugh Wiley Snoddy but for some reason dropped his Snoddy surname.

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Friday 28 January 22 19:33 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry forgot to say, the only other trace of Thomas Snoddy and Jane Agnew I have uncovered so far is the baptism of their son Thomas on 4th April 1824 in Carnmoney Church of Ireland.

Another point of interest, images of  transcriptions of the Ballylinny Presbyterian registers are also available on the family search website.  Images of transcriptions for Carnmoney Church of Ireland registers for births/marriages are also available, although I am unsure who made the Carnmoney transcriptions.  There are a number of Lynn marriages and baptisms in the Carnmoney COI records.

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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Wednesday 26 January 22 23:09 GMT (UK)  »
Ezekiel D Wiley - Head of household, Jane Wiley (Baron) - wife, Elizabeth Wiley - daughter, Joseph Baron Wiley - son,  Mary Wiley - mother (no maiden name stated) and William Rea - servant.  All resident in Ballycushin.  No ages stated for anyone in the household and no mention of Fanny Scott.


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Antrim / Re: PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)
« on: Wednesday 26 January 22 18:30 GMT (UK)  »
All of the Snoddy children baptisms are in the Templepatrick Presbyterian church registers with the exception of the two children born in Scotland.  All of the baptisms give the mothers name as Fanny/Francis Lynn, with the exception of one baptism which lists the mother as Fanny Scott rather than Lynn.  I am aware of a Frances Scott Wylie in some trees on Ancestry which would suggest Fanny Lynn is indeed from the Wylie line.  I have taken the information regarding the baptisms from the Family Search website where you can now view scans of what I think are McKinney's transcriptions of the birth and marriage registers for Templepatrick Presbyterian.  To find the images search under Catalog on the website, then under Templepatrick as a location and it will bring up the links to the images.  They can be found in two separate documents - duplicates of each other.  The same scans also include Donegore and Carnmoney records.  The marriage of Matthew Snoddy and Frances Lynn is also to be found in the same registers and again has been transcribed by McKinney and the images can be viewed online.  Your Barron's and Lynn's also appear in the registers online.

I got the Templepatrick Presbyterian census from the Emerald Ancestors website.  It lists Jane Agnew as the husband of Thomas Snoddy.  I hope to view the microfilm of the census at some point in the future.

Wylie was used as Fanny Lynn's maiden name by her son James when registering the deaths of his two siblings in Scotland.  My take is James simply used the wrong maiden name for his mother when registering the deaths.  From my own research into McMurray's who moved to Scotland I know just how badly inaccurate the death registration and even sometimes the marriage registration information can be.  One of my McMurray's stated her mother's name was Jane Peden at her marriage registration rather than Jane Snoddy. 

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